Zero Tolerance for Mare; Carney in the picture?

WhoDat205 · 11-09-2007, 02:39 PM

New Orleans - Pro Football Weekly

Mind games haunting Saints' Mare

Nov. 9, 2007

The Saints are nearing a zero-tolerance policy with PK Olindo Mare, the way we hear it. Mare, an 11-year veteran, is 6-of-12 on field-goal attempts, which places him at the bottom of the league in accuracy, and is just 1-of-5 on kicks of 40 yards or longer. He battled a groin injury early in the season but appears to have recovered from it — on kickoffs he’s regularly booting the ball into the endzone for touchbacks. Sources say Mare’s issues are all mental. In the past month, New Orleans has invited Martin Gramatica, Mike Vanderjagt, Billy Cundiff and other free agents to work out, but none has been convincing in his audition for Saints personnel. Our source in New Orleans says 45 yards is Mare’s ceiling right now, and the Saints will keep their offense on the field in fourth-down situations if it can’t move the ball past the opposition’s 30-yard line. We hear Jaguars PK Josh Scobee is a week or two away from returning from a quadriceps injury, but once he is healthy, Jacksonville may release his replacement, John Carney. Carney, who was with the Saints from 2001 to '06, could end up in New Orleans once again before the season is done.

Turbo Saint · 11-09-2007, 02:59 PM

god i hope so.

LongTimeFan · 11-09-2007, 04:39 PM

I thought he was going to be cut this past Monday.
I still say he's done in the Big Easy.
All I want right now is John Carney back in New Orleans.

NEXTPROBOWLER · 11-09-2007, 05:02 PM

damn is it that hard to find a half decent kicker?

LongTimeFan · 11-09-2007, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by NEXTPROBOWLER

damn is it that hard to find a half decent kicker?

It's very hard to find a PK at this time of the season, not as bad as looking for a corner but still not an easy task.

WillMacKenzie · 11-09-2007, 07:35 PM

Carney! Yes!

phatoosdey · 11-09-2007, 08:42 PM

stickin with my prediction from other thread
mare goes 3 for 3 against rams

JOESAM2002 · 11-10-2007, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by phatoosdey

stickin with my prediction from other thread
mare goes 3 for 3 against rams

Phat, i've been looking at this post since last night. I gotta ask. What brought you to this conclusion? No one in the world hopes you're right more than me, but I just have to ask.

phatoosdey · 11-10-2007, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by JOESAM2002

Phat, i've been looking at this post since last night. I gotta ask. What brought you to this conclusion? No one in the world hopes you're right more than me, but I just have to ask.

nothing conclusive til sunday afternoon joe i was just playing around making predictions
i don't really care if i'm wrong i just want the W
as for mare...maybe if we cut off his toes....ok that was mean
i do hope he pulls it together and i do not believe in booing him before the kick

SaintFanInATLHELL · 11-10-2007, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by phatoosdey

stickin with my prediction from other thread
mare goes 3 for 3 against rams

I can't see it. The Rams haven't been able to stop anyone. So what makes you think the Saints will be kicking field goals? Also there are not enough TDs (3) to account for Mare.

Now if you said Mare nails 5 or 6 extra points, I may be with you.

The real problem is that we can't trust the guy to nail the clutch kick when we need it. It may seem unfair, but frankly he was a key contributor in the Saints critical loss to Carolina. I know that Freddy "GameShow" Thomas got burnt by Steve Smith. But if Mare had made either the blocked kick (20 yards!) or the long one (I know 54 is a reach) then it would be a whole different ball game for the Saints.

The point that mas missed was that the fans were booing Mare before the second kick because he missed the first one. Dude only was two jobs: put the ball throught the endzone on kickoffs and make FG and extra points. He left 6 points on the table and contributed to J'ville's 100 yard kickoff return.

If he can't do his only two jobs, then let's get someone else in there. While we had problems with Carney due to his limitations, we could trust the guy from 40 yards in.

I don't feel that way about Mare. And that's the problem.

SFIAH

SFIAH

11-09-2007, 02:39 PM	#1
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11-09-2007, 02:59 PM	#2
Turbo Saint SoCal Saint Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: OB - San Diego, CA Posts: 726	Re: Zero Tolerance for Mare; Carney in the picture? god i hope so.

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LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	Re: Zero Tolerance for Mare; Carney in the picture? Originally Posted by NEXTPROBOWLER damn is it that hard to find a half decent kicker? It's very hard to find a PK at this time of the season, not as bad as looking for a corner but still not an easy task.

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JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: Zero Tolerance for Mare; Carney in the picture? Originally Posted by phatoosdey stickin with my prediction from other thread mare goes 3 for 3 against rams Phat, i've been looking at this post since last night. I gotta ask. What brought you to this conclusion? No one in the world hopes you're right more than me, but I just have to ask.

11-10-2007, 05:13 PM	#9
phatoosdey Drunkagen Join Date: May 2007 Location: kenner Posts: 356	Re: Zero Tolerance for Mare; Carney in the picture? Originally Posted by JOESAM2002 Phat, i've been looking at this post since last night. I gotta ask. What brought you to this conclusion? No one in the world hopes you're right more than me, but I just have to ask. nothing conclusive til sunday afternoon joe i was just playing around making predictions i don't really care if i'm wrong i just want the W as for mare...maybe if we cut off his toes....ok that was mean i do hope he pulls it together and i do not believe in booing him before the kick

11-10-2007, 08:35 AM	#10
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,781	Re: Zero Tolerance for Mare; Carney in the picture? Originally Posted by phatoosdey stickin with my prediction from other thread mare goes 3 for 3 against rams I can't see it. The Rams haven't been able to stop anyone. So what makes you think the Saints will be kicking field goals? Also there are not enough TDs (3) to account for Mare. Now if you said Mare nails 5 or 6 extra points, I may be with you. The real problem is that we can't trust the guy to nail the clutch kick when we need it. It may seem unfair, but frankly he was a key contributor in the Saints critical loss to Carolina. I know that Freddy "GameShow" Thomas got burnt by Steve Smith. But if Mare had made either the blocked kick (20 yards!) or the long one (I know 54 is a reach) then it would be a whole different ball game for the Saints. The point that mas missed was that the fans were booing Mare before the second kick because he missed the first one. Dude only was two jobs: put the ball throught the endzone on kickoffs and make FG and extra points. He left 6 points on the table and contributed to J'ville's 100 yard kickoff return. If he can't do his only two jobs, then let's get someone else in there. While we had problems with Carney due to his limitations, we could trust the guy from 40 yards in. I don't feel that way about Mare. And that's the problem. SFIAH SFIAH
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