Zero Tolerance for Mare; Carney in the picture?

JOESAM2002 · 11-10-2007, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by phatoosdey

stickin with my prediction from other thread
mare goes 3 for 3 against rams

Phat, i've been looking at this post since last night. I gotta ask. What brought you to this conclusion? No one in the world hopes you're right more than me, but I just have to ask.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 11-10-2007, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by phatoosdey

stickin with my prediction from other thread
mare goes 3 for 3 against rams

I can't see it. The Rams haven't been able to stop anyone. So what makes you think the Saints will be kicking field goals? Also there are not enough TDs (3) to account for Mare.

Now if you said Mare nails 5 or 6 extra points, I may be with you.

The real problem is that we can't trust the guy to nail the clutch kick when we need it. It may seem unfair, but frankly he was a key contributor in the Saints critical loss to Carolina. I know that Freddy "GameShow" Thomas got burnt by Steve Smith. But if Mare had made either the blocked kick (20 yards!) or the long one (I know 54 is a reach) then it would be a whole different ball game for the Saints.

The point that mas missed was that the fans were booing Mare before the second kick because he missed the first one. Dude only was two jobs: put the ball throught the endzone on kickoffs and make FG and extra points. He left 6 points on the table and contributed to J'ville's 100 yard kickoff return.

If he can't do his only two jobs, then let's get someone else in there. While we had problems with Carney due to his limitations, we could trust the guy from 40 yards in.

I don't feel that way about Mare. And that's the problem.

SFIAH

SFIAH

JOESAM2002 · 11-10-2007, 09:50 AM

One other thing that some might have missed is that lately a good number of his kickoffs haven't made it to the endzone. So does that make him worth less?

SaintFanInATLHELL · 11-10-2007, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by JOESAM2002

One other thing that some might have missed is that lately a good number of his kickoffs haven't made it to the endzone. So does that make him worth less?

Absolutely. Carney was ditched because he couldn't put kickoffs in the endzone and couldn't make long field goals accurately. So we ended up carrying two kickers on the roster at the end of last season.

Mare was supposed to be the cure for these ills. He has led the league in touchbacks for at least a couple of years and has been a rather accurate kicker in Miami. The thought must have been that he could use a single roster slot, put the ball in the endzone, and be available for those 50+ yard kicks that Carney simply did not have the leg for.

But...

Dude hasn't panned out. There was a minimum of a 13 point swing in last week's game due to Mare. Carolina was a disaster. There's no trust.

How long do we carry the guy before the team really gets burned by him?

SFIAH

JOESAM2002 · 11-10-2007, 04:36 PM

Oh, you can bet it'll happen. Sooner rather than later in my mind. I hate to see it, but it's coming.

graywolfkris · 11-10-2007, 04:40 PM

Please bring Carney back!

phatoosdey · 11-10-2007, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by JOESAM2002

Phat, i've been looking at this post since last night. I gotta ask. What brought you to this conclusion? No one in the world hopes you're right more than me, but I just have to ask.

nothing conclusive til sunday afternoon joe i was just playing around making predictions
i don't really care if i'm wrong i just want the W
as for mare...maybe if we cut off his toes....ok that was mean
i do hope he pulls it together and i do not believe in booing him before the kick

QBREES9 · 11-10-2007, 10:47 PM

—QB Drew Brees said he threw his arms in the air in support of K Olindo Mare on Sunday as fans booed when Mare trotted onto the field and missed a 52-yard field goal just before halftime against the Jags.

Fans were frustrated because Mare, who is just 6-for-12 this season, had missed a 43-yard attempt seconds earlier. Brees said he simply was urging fans to be more supportive of Mare.

"I was saying, 'Support him,'" Brees said Wednesday. "We all have rough times, and the guy's had some rough times. So support him. You know, cheer for him.

"If you want him to make the kick, then make him feel good about it. Don't make him feel like everybody's booing him and, 'If I miss, they're going to boo even louder.' Support the guy, that's what I was saying."

—The surging Saints will be going after their fifth consecutive win — which would equal the fourth-longest winning streak in club history — when they face the winless Rams in the Superdome on Sunday.

If Drew is behind so am I

11-10-2007, 08:41 AM	#11
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: Zero Tolerance for Mare; Carney in the picture? Originally Posted by phatoosdey stickin with my prediction from other thread mare goes 3 for 3 against rams Phat, i've been looking at this post since last night. I gotta ask. What brought you to this conclusion? No one in the world hopes you're right more than me, but I just have to ask.

11-10-2007, 09:35 AM	#12
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: Zero Tolerance for Mare; Carney in the picture? Originally Posted by phatoosdey stickin with my prediction from other thread mare goes 3 for 3 against rams I can't see it. The Rams haven't been able to stop anyone. So what makes you think the Saints will be kicking field goals? Also there are not enough TDs (3) to account for Mare. Now if you said Mare nails 5 or 6 extra points, I may be with you. The real problem is that we can't trust the guy to nail the clutch kick when we need it. It may seem unfair, but frankly he was a key contributor in the Saints critical loss to Carolina. I know that Freddy "GameShow" Thomas got burnt by Steve Smith. But if Mare had made either the blocked kick (20 yards!) or the long one (I know 54 is a reach) then it would be a whole different ball game for the Saints. The point that mas missed was that the fans were booing Mare before the second kick because he missed the first one. Dude only was two jobs: put the ball throught the endzone on kickoffs and make FG and extra points. He left 6 points on the table and contributed to J'ville's 100 yard kickoff return. If he can't do his only two jobs, then let's get someone else in there. While we had problems with Carney due to his limitations, we could trust the guy from 40 yards in. I don't feel that way about Mare. And that's the problem. SFIAH SFIAH
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11-10-2007, 09:50 AM	#13
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: Zero Tolerance for Mare; Carney in the picture? One other thing that some might have missed is that lately a good number of his kickoffs haven't made it to the endzone. So does that make him worth less?

11-10-2007, 03:57 PM	#14
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: Zero Tolerance for Mare; Carney in the picture? Originally Posted by JOESAM2002 One other thing that some might have missed is that lately a good number of his kickoffs haven't made it to the endzone. So does that make him worth less? Absolutely. Carney was ditched because he couldn't put kickoffs in the endzone and couldn't make long field goals accurately. So we ended up carrying two kickers on the roster at the end of last season. Mare was supposed to be the cure for these ills. He has led the league in touchbacks for at least a couple of years and has been a rather accurate kicker in Miami. The thought must have been that he could use a single roster slot, put the ball in the endzone, and be available for those 50+ yard kicks that Carney simply did not have the leg for. But... Dude hasn't panned out. There was a minimum of a 13 point swing in last week's game due to Mare. Carolina was a disaster. There's no trust. How long do we carry the guy before the team really gets burned by him? SFIAH
	Super Bowl Championships: New Orleans Saints:1, Carolina:0, Atlanta Chokers: STILL ZERO Only Atlanta choked in an unchokable situation... Life is definitely good.

11-10-2007, 04:36 PM	#15
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: Zero Tolerance for Mare; Carney in the picture? Oh, you can bet it'll happen. Sooner rather than later in my mind. I hate to see it, but it's coming.

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phatoosdey Drunkagen Join Date: May 2007 Location: kenner Posts: 356	Re: Zero Tolerance for Mare; Carney in the picture? Originally Posted by JOESAM2002 Phat, i've been looking at this post since last night. I gotta ask. What brought you to this conclusion? No one in the world hopes you're right more than me, but I just have to ask. nothing conclusive til sunday afternoon joe i was just playing around making predictions i don't really care if i'm wrong i just want the W as for mare...maybe if we cut off his toes....ok that was mean i do hope he pulls it together and i do not believe in booing him before the kick

11-10-2007, 10:47 PM	#18
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: Zero Tolerance for Mare; Carney in the picture? —QB Drew Brees said he threw his arms in the air in support of K Olindo Mare on Sunday as fans booed when Mare trotted onto the field and missed a 52-yard field goal just before halftime against the Jags. Fans were frustrated because Mare, who is just 6-for-12 this season, had missed a 43-yard attempt seconds earlier. Brees said he simply was urging fans to be more supportive of Mare. "I was saying, 'Support him,'" Brees said Wednesday. "We all have rough times, and the guy's had some rough times. So support him. You know, cheer for him. "If you want him to make the kick, then make him feel good about it. Don't make him feel like everybody's booing him and, 'If I miss, they're going to boo even louder.' Support the guy, that's what I was saying." —The surging Saints will be going after their fifth consecutive win — which would equal the fourth-longest winning streak in club history — when they face the winless Rams in the Superdome on Sunday. If Drew is behind so am I