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I know I've been hard on Drew Brees, and that's wrong, I just want the Saints to win, they deserve to have a title, after 41 years, it's just painful to watch. The fans of New Orleans deserve to have a championship team, we as fans see glaring needs of what our team needs , it just bothers me, why Sean Payton and Loomis can't see this. With those draft picks, why didn't we get any defensive presence, I'm talking about using picks to strengthen our defense. All of our high picks went to the offense, Meachum, Alleman, Bushrod, none of these guy are seeing playing time. I do think that Meachum, will be great
I guess we will see next year. I want the same as the rest of you guys, for the Saints to win, I just got really irriated when they lost to the rams.

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Welcome to the club. I think we should start every post with "Hello, my name is ____ and I'm a Saints fan" because it's like an AA meeting around here sometimes.

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Amen! You think you got it bad? You should be a moderator. LOL. We cach hell all the time for doing our job. LOL.

Anyway,welcome aboard siants9. Don't let these clowns get to you. They're a good lot.

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I mostly feel sorry for my buddy. He is English and moved to New Orleans about 7 years ago. He basically had no favorite team and I convinced him to root for the Saints. In hindsight I should have convinced him to root for another team, but I digress. Now he is a die hard Saints fan, and unlike me he has not yet conditioned himself to understand why we lose to teams we should beat or always make the games we win closer than they should be. So I get texts every Sunday about how sick to his stomach he is and how confused he is with the calls the team makes. I try and tell him that this team is cursed and that he needs to accept it and move on. Acceptance is the first step to being at peace as a Saints fan.

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I assume you're talking about saints9?

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No. Im talking about my buddy who hasn't learned to use a Saints forum yet. Thank God for that. You just think our current members are pessimitic by nature.

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I still say, I've seen instances where Brees could have ran to dig his team out of a hole, but he didn't. Tony Romo, will move to help his offensive linemen. I'm going to leave Dree alone for now, because I know he wants to win, I'm not questioning his heart and desire to win. It's just something about playing football in that Superdome giving these boys so much bad luck. Maybe, it's the name and Fleur-de- lis symbol, 41 years is just to long for a team to have this much bad luck.

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I agree that he always looks to pass, but I have seen him run for the yards.

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Yes, the Saints are cursed, the symbol that they wear is not good.

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Ok, I am a Brees fan through and through. But, is it just my imagination or does he not utilize the audible near enough? It seems alot of times when other teams are stacking our line, it would've been easily countered by a timely audible to the TE or a short-slant receiver. Has anyone else noticed the lack of audibles? Just an observation.

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I don't think he has a lot of options due to the plays that are called. A lot of the routes are designed to where there are those routes designed in the play. Which I do think helps make Brees successful and hide the major flaws with out line. When teams take certain things from us then the flaws show, like pass protection.

They use so much passing that it limits what you can do to audible out of and into a run play because you don't have the personel on the field.

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Yup, if you're in a 5 or 4 wide set what can you audible to? There's gotta be a lot of "hot routes" built in.

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So is one to assume that since the 'hot routes' are built into the plays, alot of our receivers aren't on the same page in pressure situations? It seems that the only one that comes clean when Drew is running for his life is Patton.

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Your WR has to know what to do in order to be free for the 'hot route'. Patton a Vet I'd say he knows. Thats why it takes years for a WR to develop into being a go to guy. When you have a hot route on, its 'one' WR who is on the route and the go to guy not all of the WR's go into a hot route situation the others have to carry out the other routes and set up for some blocks.

In the Saints offense you will notice when there is a hot route involved when Brees takes the quick drop back (3 step), which he uses A LOT! He may not elect to use the hot route depending on whats going on with the defense. So you will see him go through his 'progression' looking for his first option and then his second and then dumping off.

The 5 and 7 step drop backs have been nothing but doom for us this year due to the protection. We haven't been successful using long pass plays cause we don't have the time for the WR to get downfield.

Defenses can take away the 'hot route' if they read it so keep that in mind as well. Hot routes aren't always successful routes if they are picked up and defended against.

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A quarterback who's complete opposite of a statue, Jeff Garcia, Tony Romo, need I go on.

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QB is the least of our problems guys.

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Thanks Euphoria, I was a defensive player my whole football career so the offense eludes me at times. I was the one who would rather hit than be hit. :)

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I was a RB, I thought it more fun to try and not let the big guys catch me.

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Me and you man, me and you. I was put at center for 3 plays and swore if they ever did it again, i'd never play another down of football. LOL:mrgreen:

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Drew Brees is suppose to look to pass first, but if all of the receivers are covered, and there's an hugh running lane to get a first down, than Drew should run. Drew want do that, he's scared to get his arm damaged.

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He was the problem last week.

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Coach Payton won't/can't make necessary adjustments during the game. He also calls too many pass plays (refuses to run the ball).

The Front Office/Ownership refuses to make a play at any big-time free agents.

The DC runs the wrong system and uses the wrong personnel.

The QB makes too many turnovers and lacks the athleticsm to aviod the blitz.

The starting RB can't run the ball tough and won't take a hit.

The O-Line can't protect the QB and can't run block.

The DTs get no push up the middle.

The DEs get no pass rush from the outside.

The LBs are unathletic and can't play the run or the pass.

The CBs are the worst in the league.

The safties don't provide the deep support and don't make plays on the ball.

The kicker is the worst in the league.

By my count, our punter and our receivers are the only players worth a crap. I can't believe we've even won a game.

Now you see, Saints9 is not the only one complaining about Drew Brees and Sean Payton.

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Jesus,do they do anything right?

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No he wasn't. The problem was the coaches failing to see what was going on during the game. They were not looking at the pics that are taken before and just after the snap. The coaches in the booth must not have been relaying the info to the sidelines.

The coaches haven't made adjustments during the game. Instead they keep going with what they set out to do and fail to realize this game of professional football is about adjustments.

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Football period is about adjustments. Youth, HS, College, Pro, whatever. If you don't make adjustments and counter adjustments you are done.

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Hey Euphoria,
Well Said, Well Said.......

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Getting paid 50 million dollars, Drew Brees, has to take fault for throwing bad passing. I've seen him just through bad arse passes, period.

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hehe tell me about it
i convinced my austrian friend in 2000 as well
bought him a stallworth jersey in 2003 for his b-day
by now he knows what it means to be a saints fan
he would always joke why couldn't i have been from new england
just bought him fujita jersey for b-day this year
funny dude and a good friend, i'm glad he's on the wagon

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It's really good to have our new members from all over the world. One thing i'd ask them to remember is, THIS AIN'T ENGLISH FOOTBALL!!!!!!! LOL. :mrgreen:

P.S. Sorry guys. I just couldn't help that. I thought it was just to funny. Oh, and by the way, it's NEVER all one persons fault. It's a team sport and everyone has room for blame. The smount of money a player makes means nothing as to how he plays or if he's at fault. We all have bad days. Even you and me. The ampount of money we make doesen't matter,we still screw up from time to time.