Re: Jason David proves everyone wrong!
 

On what? That he can tackle? That he plays with intensity? That's great. Too bad he couldn't cover a snail.

Judging by his play, you are wrong. Craft has outplayed David by far... and it's pathetic that he is. Can someone disagree with this? And, how do you know Young isn't ready yet? I'm not saying he is either but obviously David isn't. He hasn't show anything besides as you point out... he can tackle. We're competing to win the division, this is not the time to let someone learn on the job... especially as our #2 corner. That's why you EASE him in there until he can do something other than tackle.

Stats are for losers. Does that ring a bell? ROFL. Do you know what hypocrite means?

Thank god he can tackle... as many passes are completed on him, he sure has plenty of opportunities to make the tackle. Great job, great example, and great stat. ROFL. And if I remember correctly... one of David's pick came on an overthrown pass in which he was 6 plus yards off the receiver and it was right in his hands. Good one.

Jason Craft... yes Jason Craft.

I'm going to rip my hair out with all this go watch the film crap... Ray Charles can see how bad David is playing. And you're definately right, he's contributing... FOR THE OTHER TEAM.

Is definately the right word.

Until David can show he deserves to start, he has no business doing so. Start Craft or Thomas until our talented free agent corner can show us something.

If David starts this week... God please don't let him cover Andre Johnson. If he does, we might be in for a long day.

Re: Jason David proves everyone wrong!
 

Sorry Euph, but I'm with Papz on this one. JD simply isn't happening. I'd rather see Young, or even Jason Craft (yes I even said Jason Craft!) in the starter position.

JD isn't making it.

Re: Jason David proves everyone wrong!
 

Ok you're going overboard with your post. He's made plays and some damn good ones. You obviously didn't see them and overlooking them.

He has out played Craft and you have to see that with your eyes. He's got more speed and looking to make plays across the board. The ONLY flaw has been mentally not taking the bite on shorter routes and covering the deep guy he is suppose to be one on one with.

Young is not ready to be a number 1 nor 2 cover guy. You can tell it by watching him in action in the nickeal. He is a guy learning the speed of the game still. Putting him on an island with a number 2 professional WR will be bad news.

Geeting back to craft I guess we already forgot how he was picked on a couple of years ago. He got playing time because FT got blasted and picked on. I am a Craft supporter... I like the guy but he isn't better than David. NO WAY. If we had another CB better than David he'd be out there and David will be in the Nickeal not Craft.

The real problem is that you are only seeing the plays he has been picked on but not seeing what ALL he is doing out there. He doesn't suck just mental errors and lack of disipline which can be contributed to him still converting to more man to man from Indy's cover 2 or Lack of coaching on our D.

Re: Jason David proves everyone wrong!
 

Might as well start Martin over Brees right... Brees is 4-5.

Re: Jason David proves everyone wrong!
 

I guess we just disagree on strategies.

1) From what I gather from your line of thinking, JD is our best option in a bad situation, even though he's not really good enough. So play him, cause there's no better option.

2) From my line of thinking, he will fail any, so try something else. At least Young has a -possibility- of doing better. If Young fails as well, big deal, we were failing anyway.

Different philosophies.

Re: Jason David proves everyone wrong!
 

I second, all those in favor of passing starting Young over David say "Aye". Those opposed?

Then it's decided. We fans still have no say.

Meeting adjourned.

Re: Jason David proves everyone wrong!
 

Totally agree with you and yes 1 is my theory. But You might as well start Martin because Brees isn't getting it done either. You can't do that though. You have to put your best man out on the field. People with the #2 theory (please don't take this personal) They aren't watching whats going on on the field on every play and every position and only care about certain plays/players. They don't have the luxury of seeing whats going on in pratice.

You can't start Martin over Brees... Guess who the Field Goal Kicker is going to be this week -Mare, Why? He's the best we got.

You don't start Colston kicking field goals in this weekes coming game just to see what he can do.

Re: Jason David proves everyone wrong!
 

Yea in games 5, 6, and 7. He was outstanding.

I'm glad you're the only one that sees that.

Which is leading to numerous of big plays and easily converted first downs.

Your guess is as good as mines on this. From what I've gathered, many like what they've seen from him in limited play. We know what we're going to get from David, not Young.

Why are you living in the past? This is the present. He's playing better than David and deserves to be starting over him as of now. What he did in the past is irrelevant.

No the real problem is you're completely oblivious on how poorly David is playing.

Read what you just wrote and tell me why he deserves to start right now? Mental errors and lack of discipline is a recipe for disaster at any starting position. Does that not describe rookies coming into the league? Who in the world wants to start a player with those qualities?

I have concluded that today must be April 1st. There is no other explanation.

Re: Jason David proves everyone wrong!
 

Ok now your posts are for humor right?

I totally am well aware of Davids errors and have pointed them out... are you not reading those portions?

David is playing better than Thomas and Craft, period. The past is VERY relevant or David wouldn't be in a Saints uniform now would he, if Thomas and Craft were better David would be else where. We wouldn't even be having this discussion if they were better, since he's not here right.

Re: Jason David proves everyone wrong!
 

Who are we starting at QB this week? I hope not a 4-5 QB.

Re: Jason David proves everyone wrong!
 

A little of both.

If you could read (and most importantly comprehend), I've acknowledged that you've pointed out his flaws.

It's not relevant. Just because Craft played poorly in the past, it doesn't mean he's doomed for failure. Just because David has had success in the past, it doesn't mean he can't play worse.

I know feel as dumb as a stump.

Re: Jason David proves everyone wrong!
 

Saying start Palko would be a more relevant analogy, but I realize your sarcasm. However, QB and CB are totally different and everyone knows that Brees is a Pro Bowl caliber QB. David has done nothing to merit a 2nd, 3rd, 4th...chance. He also hasn't played a single game where you said, wow! that was an awesome performance....ever. Regardless of his struggle early on this season or last week, Brees is one of the ten best QBs in the league. David is medicore at best.

If our QB were Cleo Lemon and we were 0-9, then I would be calling for Kolb or whoever MIA's backup is. There comes a point when you gotta say that the Jason David experiment was a failure and move on.

Bringing this full circle, Young might take a dent to his confidence, but there are things that a coordinator can do to insuate him. Treat it like a preseason battle. Let him and David have equal reps at the 2 spot. Worst case scenario, they both suck and we're in the same situation. Best case, Young plays well or David has a fire lit under his butt.

Re: Jason David proves everyone wrong!
 

I can't take anything away from yall's posts. All reasonable... and I can see merit in them. It doesn't change the fact that we are not in pre-season and we are in a race for the division title. The best player at that position plays no matter what. If he has a bad game, then he has a bad game. You still go with your best player.

I can see going with Young later in the season depending on how things go from here but not now. I haven't seen anything in him when he is on the field to say he's ready -nothing. Craft, hasn't showed me he's better than David so far either.

I'll tell yall this much give me 2-3 more weeks and I'll change my mind but until then... bare with me on David.

Re: Jason David proves everyone wrong!
 

I am with you guys all the way. I beleive in sticking with your players and showing them that you beleive in them and hope that they will turn around and show you something in return. But Jee WIZ, get him out of there. This statement failed for him after the second game of the season. Got to go. We need changes for the rest of the season if we want to contend for NFC south.