Payton Was Out Coached, Period

blacksaint · 11-11-2007, 11:23 PM

Coach Haz out coached his predecessor today in the Dome. Haslett brought pressure all day, he called blitzes from all over the field, and yet, Payton keep calling passing plays that had Brees taking five and seven step drops

. Payton and Gibbs should have taken a page from Coach Haz book because they made him look like a defensive wizard. Can anyone answer a simple question for me? Why do we rush four and drop seven? It really doesn't stop or accomplish anything. If we sit back like that next week in Houston, we can expect the same results, a QB completing passes all day on us with no fear of being hit.

Tobias-Reiper · 11-11-2007, 11:29 PM

uh.. didn't the Saints scored 29 points?

saintsrule · 11-12-2007, 03:56 AM

Haslett wanted to win this game more than any game.

hagan714 · 11-12-2007, 06:53 AM

So The Offense Did It Not The D. I Will Go Down Fighting Before I Give This To Haz

darstep · 11-12-2007, 07:59 AM

The Saints had a total of 10 running plays, Count'em TEN. No balance at all. The Rams doubled our time of possession. Anytime our defense is on the field for 40 minutes, very little good can come from it. WE HAVE TO GET TO RUNNING THE BALL! The great reply will be that "when we are behind we can't run the ball". But we weren't always behind, we didn't start out behind, and we weren't so far behind that we COULD not run the ball. We started with Stecker's 13 yard pop and then he nearly disappeared. Karney got scraps - scrub playing time. Hang this one on Payton's play calling. All the yardage and completions at the end were Hasslett's prevent defense...remember that?

BooBirdSaint · 11-12-2007, 08:24 AM

Hmmmm in 4 wins Brees has 11 TD's and 1 Int and in 5 losses 11 Int's & 3 TD's... Yesterday Drew gives 2 gifts for 14 first half points to the Rams. Seems one of recuring "themes" this year is put a little pressure on Drew and he'll give it away. Of course all this set up by a weak OL that couldn't stop a dripping faucet...

saintfan · 11-12-2007, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

uh.. didn't the Saints scored 29 points?

As they said back in the Brooks days, "yeah, but that was all in junk time when the game was over".

Haz stuck it to 'em today, period.

Tobias-Reiper · 11-12-2007, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

As they said back in the Brooks days, "yeah, but that was all in junk time when the game was over".

Haz stuck it to 'em today, period.

Really? It was over?
Josh Bullocks missed 2, count them, two, onside kicks that hit him in the numbers.
The game wasn't over until Bullocks missed that second onside kick. Up until that point, the game wasn't over. So don't give me this crap that it was junk time, because it wasn't.

Budsdrinker · 11-12-2007, 09:17 AM

Bottom line is after the first series, Brees and the offense was out of sync until the 4th quarter. His first pick was a pass that never should have been thrown and for that matter he should have never thrown the 2nd pass in all that coverage. Brees started on fire then he just lost it for 3 quarters, 2 picks, a fumble that we recovered and intentional grounding. Another dose of reality should make this team better and poised to go on another 4-5 5 game run. Only difference is now we may need to win out.

Donuts32 · 11-12-2007, 09:42 AM

The Saints are going to have to play like their life depended on it. Get Jason David out the game. He bites to much on the Qb fake. Our MLB and kicker sucks. Drew Brees looked like Brees of the first four games. We didnt run Reggie enough. Oh did I say Jason David sucks. The Saints had a chance to win that game but no Bullocks cant catch a cold. Worst of all I hate to see Haslett get the win. That just pi$$ed me off.

11-11-2007, 11:23 PM	#1
blacksaint DARE TO ENTER Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Home Sweet Home, NEW ORLEANS, La. Posts: 1,154	Payton Was Out Coached, Period Coach Haz out coached his predecessor today in the Dome. Haslett brought pressure all day, he called blitzes from all over the field, and yet, Payton keep calling passing plays that had Brees taking five and seven step drops. Payton and Gibbs should have taken a page from Coach Haz book because they made him look like a defensive wizard. Can anyone answer a simple question for me? Why do we rush four and drop seven? It really doesn't stop or accomplish anything. If we sit back like that next week in Houston, we can expect the same results, a QB completing passes all day on us with no fear of being hit.
	saint4life (504)

11-11-2007, 11:29 PM	#2
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Payton Was Out Coached, Period uh.. didn't the Saints scored 29 points?

11-12-2007, 03:56 AM	#3
saintsrule 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 657	Re: Payton Was Out Coached, Period Haslett wanted to win this game more than any game.
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11-12-2007, 06:53 AM	#4
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Payton Was Out Coached, Period So The Offense Did It Not The D. I Will Go Down Fighting Before I Give This To Haz

11-12-2007, 07:59 AM	#5
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: Payton Was Out Coached, Period The Saints had a total of 10 running plays, Count'em TEN. No balance at all. The Rams doubled our time of possession. Anytime our defense is on the field for 40 minutes, very little good can come from it. WE HAVE TO GET TO RUNNING THE BALL! The great reply will be that "when we are behind we can't run the ball". But we weren't always behind, we didn't start out behind, and we weren't so far behind that we COULD not run the ball. We started with Stecker's 13 yard pop and then he nearly disappeared. Karney got scraps - scrub playing time. Hang this one on Payton's play calling. All the yardage and completions at the end were Hasslett's prevent defense...remember that?
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11-12-2007, 08:54 AM	#7
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Payton Was Out Coached, Period Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper uh.. didn't the Saints scored 29 points? As they said back in the Brooks days, "yeah, but that was all in junk time when the game was over". Haz stuck it to 'em today, period.

11-12-2007, 09:03 AM	#8
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Payton Was Out Coached, Period Originally Posted by saintfan As they said back in the Brooks days, "yeah, but that was all in junk time when the game was over". Haz stuck it to 'em today, period. Really? It was over? Josh Bullocks missed 2, count them, two, onside kicks that hit him in the numbers. The game wasn't over until Bullocks missed that second onside kick. Up until that point, the game wasn't over. So don't give me this crap that it was junk time, because it wasn't.

11-12-2007, 09:17 AM	#9
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Payton Was Out Coached, Period Bottom line is after the first series, Brees and the offense was out of sync until the 4th quarter. His first pick was a pass that never should have been thrown and for that matter he should have never thrown the 2nd pass in all that coverage. Brees started on fire then he just lost it for 3 quarters, 2 picks, a fumble that we recovered and intentional grounding. Another dose of reality should make this team better and poised to go on another 4-5 5 game run. Only difference is now we may need to win out.

11-12-2007, 09:42 AM	#10
Donuts32 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Orleans,La Posts: 306	Re: Payton Was Out Coached, Period The Saints are going to have to play like their life depended on it. Get Jason David out the game. He bites to much on the Qb fake. Our MLB and kicker sucks. Drew Brees looked like Brees of the first four games. We didnt run Reggie enough. Oh did I say Jason David sucks. The Saints had a chance to win that game but no Bullocks cant catch a cold. Worst of all I hate to see Haslett get the win. That just pi$$ed me off.