Saints currently in top 10!!!

darstep · 11-21-2007, 06:35 AM

All of the above posts make good points, but have failed to mention who is really at the core of what Payton and Loomis are able to work out, and thats Benson. There is no way a coach/GM would settle for less than exactly what they need unless they have been hand cuffed, booked, and finger printed. It certainly hasn't been, and definitely is not salary cap! Mueller couldn't take it, and got out - no big press release, just grabbed his stuff one day and left the building. I can just imagine what the Benson/Mueller conversation was like that lead to his decision to leave: two different views of what it takes to build a winning tradition. Payton may know what he wants but then Loomis has to crunch the numbers based on Benson's thrift budgetary restraints - quality vs quantity. Let's see, do we want 1 Mercedes or a Ford, 3 Kia's, and a Hyundai?

biloxi-indian · 11-21-2007, 07:47 AM

Benson owns a Mercedes dealership in NO and doesn't give discounts to players or coaches...unless it is offered by Mercedes Benz!

Euphoria · 11-21-2007, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by darstep

All of the above posts make good points, but have failed to mention who is really at the core of what Payton and Loomis are able to work out, and thats Benson. There is no way a coach/GM would settle for less than exactly what they need unless they have been hand cuffed, booked, and finger printed. It certainly hasn't been, and definitely is not salary cap! Mueller couldn't take it, and got out - no big press release, just grabbed his stuff one day and left the building. I can just imagine what the Benson/Mueller conversation was like that lead to his decision to leave: two different views of what it takes to build a winning tradition. Payton may know what he wants but then Loomis has to crunch the numbers based on Benson's thrift budgetary restraints - quality vs quantity. Let's see, do we want 1 Mercedes or a Ford, 3 Kia's, and a Hyundai?

Benson bashers YEAH! Benson saved the Saints from moving from New Orleans. You have to look at what you got 'a business man'. You can't fault him for his business decisions, I mean he makes money and keeps the Saints in New Orleans that is a win win. I don't care much for the way he runs the team but you have to respect what he's done. The Saints were NOTHING before Benson bought them... NOTHING. They didn't win crap before him. Unfortuneately I don't think he'll ever win a Super Bowl with his management style.

If you go back to last offseason you'd see some supposedly good players being signed to big contracts... ya know what Deuce is making??? Let me tell ya if it was all about saving money Deuce wouldn't be a Saint today.

Hell why do you think the Saints drafted Reggie??? uhm to sale merchandise not to win football games. Drafting Reggie wasn't a football decision it was a business decision. There were a few football players we should have drafted instead of Reggie.

I am not a Benson fan but I know what side my bread is buttered on. I like the Saints in New Orleans and appreciate what he has been able to do to keep the Saints in New Orleans.

So unless you don't want the Saints anymore in New Orleans stop bashing Benson. I mean hell let him sale the team and move them out here to Los Angeles, we might make the a Super Bowl winner finally.

CheramieIII · 11-21-2007, 06:48 PM

Like Hagan said, we got lucky last year, real lucky and I think we have played to the teams potential this year. Reggie trying to do to much, running east to west, Drew is all over the place, one game hot, one game cold, coaches inconsistency in calling plays, defense can stop the run one minute and get burned the next, secondary couldn't stop an old lady from crossing the street.

You name it and it's a problem. We made a feeble attempt at filling holes in the secondary last off season and the d-line. Next off season someone better make sure those holes are filled and how long have those holes been there anyway. Hell since Haslett came to town and that's a long, long time.

11-21-2007, 06:35 AM	#1
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: Saints currently in top 10!!! All of the above posts make good points, but have failed to mention who is really at the core of what Payton and Loomis are able to work out, and thats Benson. There is no way a coach/GM would settle for less than exactly what they need unless they have been hand cuffed, booked, and finger printed. It certainly hasn't been, and definitely is not salary cap! Mueller couldn't take it, and got out - no big press release, just grabbed his stuff one day and left the building. I can just imagine what the Benson/Mueller conversation was like that lead to his decision to leave: two different views of what it takes to build a winning tradition. Payton may know what he wants but then Loomis has to crunch the numbers based on Benson's thrift budgetary restraints - quality vs quantity. Let's see, do we want 1 Mercedes or a Ford, 3 Kia's, and a Hyundai?
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11-21-2007, 07:47 AM	#2
biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	Re: Saints currently in top 10!!! Benson owns a Mercedes dealership in NO and doesn't give discounts to players or coaches...unless it is offered by Mercedes Benz!

11-21-2007, 11:58 AM	#3
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints currently in top 10!!! Originally Posted by darstep All of the above posts make good points, but have failed to mention who is really at the core of what Payton and Loomis are able to work out, and thats Benson. There is no way a coach/GM would settle for less than exactly what they need unless they have been hand cuffed, booked, and finger printed. It certainly hasn't been, and definitely is not salary cap! Mueller couldn't take it, and got out - no big press release, just grabbed his stuff one day and left the building. I can just imagine what the Benson/Mueller conversation was like that lead to his decision to leave: two different views of what it takes to build a winning tradition. Payton may know what he wants but then Loomis has to crunch the numbers based on Benson's thrift budgetary restraints - quality vs quantity. Let's see, do we want 1 Mercedes or a Ford, 3 Kia's, and a Hyundai? Benson bashers YEAH! Benson saved the Saints from moving from New Orleans. You have to look at what you got 'a business man'. You can't fault him for his business decisions, I mean he makes money and keeps the Saints in New Orleans that is a win win. I don't care much for the way he runs the team but you have to respect what he's done. The Saints were NOTHING before Benson bought them... NOTHING. They didn't win crap before him. Unfortuneately I don't think he'll ever win a Super Bowl with his management style. If you go back to last offseason you'd see some supposedly good players being signed to big contracts... ya know what Deuce is making??? Let me tell ya if it was all about saving money Deuce wouldn't be a Saint today. Hell why do you think the Saints drafted Reggie??? uhm to sale merchandise not to win football games. Drafting Reggie wasn't a football decision it was a business decision. There were a few football players we should have drafted instead of Reggie. I am not a Benson fan but I know what side my bread is buttered on. I like the Saints in New Orleans and appreciate what he has been able to do to keep the Saints in New Orleans. So unless you don't want the Saints anymore in New Orleans stop bashing Benson. I mean hell let him sale the team and move them out here to Los Angeles, we might make the a Super Bowl winner finally.
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11-21-2007, 06:48 PM	#4
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,497 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints currently in top 10!!! Like Hagan said, we got lucky last year, real lucky and I think we have played to the teams potential this year. Reggie trying to do to much, running east to west, Drew is all over the place, one game hot, one game cold, coaches inconsistency in calling plays, defense can stop the run one minute and get burned the next, secondary couldn't stop an old lady from crossing the street. You name it and it's a problem. We made a feeble attempt at filling holes in the secondary last off season and the d-line. Next off season someone better make sure those holes are filled and how long have those holes been there anyway. Hell since Haslett came to town and that's a long, long time.
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