John Carney is available

mjf150 · 11-21-2007, 07:28 AM

Mare was brought in mainly because of his ability, over Carney, to limit returns by making touchbacks. I think it would be interesting to see, if someone could do the research, how many touchback Mare has had this year, verses how many Carney had at this time last year. I think the results would be surprising, because, to be honest, I haven't seen Mare make too many touchbacks this year, or field goals for that matter.

Budsdrinker · 11-21-2007, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by mjf150

Mare was brought in mainly because of his ability, over Carney, to limit returns by making touchbacks. I think it would be interesting to see, if someone could do the research, how many touchback Mare has had this year, verses how many Carney had at this time last year. I think the results would be surprising, because, to be honest, I haven't seen Mare make too many touchbacks this year, or field goals for that matter.

Last year stats from nfl.com
Mare 24 TB's
Carney 5 TB's

This year
Mare 11 TB's
Carney 5 TB's

mjf150 · 11-21-2007, 09:41 AM

Carney was 23 of 25 for the Saint's last year, that's 92% for those counting. Mare, on the other hand has made only 6 out of 12, or 50%, for the team this year. I would gladly keep a player with 92% coversion rate on FG's and less TB's, over a guy that makes only half of his FG's.

Budsdrinker · 11-21-2007, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by mjf150

Carney was 23 of 25 for the Saint's last year, that's 92% for those counting. Mare, on the other hand has made only 6 out of 12, or 50%, for the team this year. I would gladly keep a player with 92% coversion rate on FG's and less TB's, over a guy that makes only half of his FG's.

Here are career stats for both kickers.

Olindo Mare: Career Stats

John Carney: Career Stats

Career stats are pretty close to equal and they both have missed some critical kicks and made some kicks. Carney just doesn't have the leg strength anymore. Bottom line is we need to get in the endzone and not worry about fieldgoals.

JOESAM2002 · 11-21-2007, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Bottom line is we need to get in the endzone and not worry about fieldgoals.

How true is this! If we get touchdowns, we don't need a fieldgoal kicker. Get 6 and forget it. There's no point in signing another kicker, we've got what we've got. Touchdowns are the answer.

CheramieIII · 11-21-2007, 07:09 PM

I say sign him for field goals and let Mare kick off and by the way I think we should on side kick every kick off the rest of the season and use the shotgun, no huddle also.

If we're going to lose lets at least make it exciting and score some points, I can watch the 49ers if I want to see a team that can't score and has no potential at all.

11-21-2007, 07:28 AM	#1
mjf150 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 770	Re: John Carney is available Mare was brought in mainly because of his ability, over Carney, to limit returns by making touchbacks. I think it would be interesting to see, if someone could do the research, how many touchback Mare has had this year, verses how many Carney had at this time last year. I think the results would be surprising, because, to be honest, I haven't seen Mare make too many touchbacks this year, or field goals for that matter.
mjf150 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 770

11-21-2007, 08:32 AM	#2
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: John Carney is available Originally Posted by mjf150 Mare was brought in mainly because of his ability, over Carney, to limit returns by making touchbacks. I think it would be interesting to see, if someone could do the research, how many touchback Mare has had this year, verses how many Carney had at this time last year. I think the results would be surprising, because, to be honest, I haven't seen Mare make too many touchbacks this year, or field goals for that matter. Last year stats from nfl.com Mare 24 TB's Carney 5 TB's This year Mare 11 TB's Carney 5 TB's

11-21-2007, 09:41 AM	#3
mjf150 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 770	Re: John Carney is available Carney was 23 of 25 for the Saint's last year, that's 92% for those counting. Mare, on the other hand has made only 6 out of 12, or 50%, for the team this year. I would gladly keep a player with 92% coversion rate on FG's and less TB's, over a guy that makes only half of his FG's.
mjf150 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 770

11-21-2007, 02:05 PM	#4
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: John Carney is available Originally Posted by mjf150 Carney was 23 of 25 for the Saint's last year, that's 92% for those counting. Mare, on the other hand has made only 6 out of 12, or 50%, for the team this year. I would gladly keep a player with 92% coversion rate on FG's and less TB's, over a guy that makes only half of his FG's. Here are career stats for both kickers. Olindo Mare: Career Stats John Carney: Career Stats Career stats are pretty close to equal and they both have missed some critical kicks and made some kicks. Carney just doesn't have the leg strength anymore. Bottom line is we need to get in the endzone and not worry about fieldgoals.

11-21-2007, 03:10 PM	#5
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: John Carney is available Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Bottom line is we need to get in the endzone and not worry about fieldgoals. How true is this! If we get touchdowns, we don't need a fieldgoal kicker. Get 6 and forget it. There's no point in signing another kicker, we've got what we've got. Touchdowns are the answer.
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11-21-2007, 07:09 PM	#6
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,490 Blog Entries: 3	Re: John Carney is available I say sign him for field goals and let Mare kick off and by the way I think we should on side kick every kick off the rest of the season and use the shotgun, no huddle also. If we're going to lose lets at least make it exciting and score some points, I can watch the 49ers if I want to see a team that can't score and has no potential at all.