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papz 11-26-2007 12:08 PM

Re: GAME BALL: Jonathan Stinchcomb
 
It's amazing how one can look at a certain area on the line all game long and be completely oblivious to Nesbit's blocking.

Clear agenda... typical. No more words need to be wasted.

:phat:

JOESAM2002 11-26-2007 12:41 PM

Re: GAME BALL: Jonathan Stinchcomb
 
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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 147329)
minus Jeff Faine. He blew some key blocks.


And he made some too.

Euphoria 11-26-2007 12:49 PM

Re: GAME BALL: Jonathan Stinchcomb
 
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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 147331)
I actually saw him block his man into making a tackle. Would have been better if he would have let him go.

See I am glad someone else is seeing what I have been seeing. Did you see the one where he had his choice of 3 DB's and some how he managed to go right between them as they stood there waiting for the RB to come to them to be tackled. AMAZING they give this guy uniform.

WhoDatQB 11-26-2007 03:33 PM

Re: GAME BALL: Jonathan Stinchcomb
 
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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 147340)
See I am glad someone else is seeing what I have been seeing. Did you see the one where he had his choice of 3 DB's and some how he managed to go right between them as they stood there waiting for the RB to come to them to be tackled. AMAZING they give this guy uniform.

I saw that play and the blocking the man into a tackle. Not to mention another screen pass that he blew. While not all of the game was this horrible he is far from consistent, and his bads are far more damaging than his goods are in helping.

I have been critical of the offensive line as well so far this season. I think Goodwin performed better than Faine, his bad plays are far better than Faine's, and I never once saw him go between DB's or LB's allowing them to make a tackle as I have seen Faine do at least three times a game.

Euphoria 11-26-2007 03:40 PM

Re: GAME BALL: Jonathan Stinchcomb
 
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Originally Posted by WhoDatQB (Post 147362)
I saw that play and the blocking the man into a tackle. Not to mention another screen pass that he blew. While not all of the game was this horrible he is far from consistent, and his bads are far more damaging than his goods are in helping.

I have been critical of the offensive line as well so far this season. I think Goodwin performed better than Faine, his bad plays are far better than Faine's, and I never once saw him go between DB's or LB's allowing them to make a tackle as I have seen Faine do at least three times a game.


OMG... FINALLY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT - THANK YOU! I TOTALLY AGREE 100 perect.
WHODAT - YOU RULE.

WhoDat205 11-26-2007 04:02 PM

Re: What you don't know!
 
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Originally Posted by jagcatdad (Post 147286)
Congrats Euphoria for noticing the Big Guys! What makes your notice even better is the fact that Stinch hyper extended his elbow in the first quarter. Matter of fact, it was so bad that his backup was warming up to go in on the next series. With a brace, a shot and a little rest, he decided to try it and you see the results.
Congratualtions to all the Big Guys who continue to labor in obscurity!

I did not know that...you're well informed.

papz 11-26-2007 04:23 PM

Re: GAME BALL: Jonathan Stinchcomb
 
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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 147365)
OMG... FINALLY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT - THANK YOU! I TOTALLY AGREE 100 perect.
WHODAT - YOU RULE.


So if you agree with him 100%, are you retracting that you think he's completely useless, horrible, and does not deserve to even be wearing a uniform? Because that's what you said... not what he said.

Cause from what I've read, WhoDatQB is saying Faine does do some good things but he's very inconsistent. His good does not outweigh the bad and Goodwin might be the better option.

Ooops I did it again.

If Goodwin gets another shot and proves to be consistent, I would not oppose to changing centers. Hopefully Faine will pick up his game and we'll continue to rack up more wins.

BoudinSandwich 11-26-2007 04:24 PM

Re: GAME BALL: Jonathan Stinchcomb
 
Forgive me for sounding like Madden again, but...

Better playcalling, keeping the defense on their toes and unable to predict what the offense is going to do, will make an offensive lineman's job much, MUCH easier.

Euphoria 11-26-2007 05:05 PM

Re: GAME BALL: Jonathan Stinchcomb
 
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Originally Posted by papz (Post 147378)
So if you agree with him 100%, are you retracting that you think he's completely useless, horrible, and does not deserve to even be wearing a uniform? Because that's what you said... not what he said.

Cause from what I've read, WhoDatQB is saying Faine does do some good things but he's very inconsistent. His good does not outweigh the bad and Goodwin might be the better option.

Ooops I did it again.

If Goodwin gets another shot and proves to be consistent, I would not oppose to changing centers. Hopefully Faine will pick up his game and we'll continue to rack up more wins.

I agree that Goodwin is a better option. I agree on the HORRIBLE play of Faine and pointed out the same mis-cues. Not only those but there were a few others as well. There was no outstanding plays that I can find that would outweigh the bad plays.

What I read out of Whodats post is that the other plays were not as horrible as those that were mentioned but didn't say they were any good either. I looked at the game again and can't point to anything that stood out as good. Hiding behind the guards as they were pass blocking isn't blocking either! When you are taught to block the inside rush first and then look to the outside and he didn't do that.

So Yes I can agree with Whodat. If I was to retract anything I'd retract the consistancy part... Faine plays very consistant, consistantly BAD.

If he doesn't something good I'll point it out just like I have done Brown in past weeks and Stinchcomb this week. OUTSTANDING game. Faine hasn't shown me anything.

Euphoria 11-26-2007 05:06 PM

Re: GAME BALL: Jonathan Stinchcomb
 
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Originally Posted by OldiesDJ (Post 147379)
Forgive me for sounding like Madden again, but...

Better playcalling, keeping the defense on their toes and unable to predict what the offense is going to do, will make an offensive lineman's job much, MUCH easier.

When you have an offensive line who can dominate a top D linemen makes the rest of the offense a lot better. I don't care who you have at other positions if your line blocks your offense will look great. If they don't then Brees, bush and whomever on Offense will look like retards.


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