Another win beating up on the wounded and confused

Budsdrinker · 11-26-2007, 10:51 AM

Combined rushing over 100 yards. I think that's acceptable.

BoudinSandwich · 11-26-2007, 11:06 AM

Sure, we didn't have any break off runs, but here's the run log from the game courtesy of Yahoo! Sports:
NFL - New Orleans Saints/Carolina Panthers Box Score Sunday November 25, 2007 - Yahoo! Sports

2nd-10, NO17 14:03 A. Stecker rushed to the left for 5 yard gain

1st-10, NO19 11:19 A. Stecker rushed to the right for 5 yard gain

2nd-5, NO24 10:48 R. Bush rushed to the left for 2 yard gain

3rd-8, NO21 9:38 A. Stecker rushed to the left for 7 yard gain

2nd-10, CAR47 6:56 R. Bush rushed to the left for 5 yard gain

1st-10, NO29 4:19 A. Stecker rushed to the right for 4 yard gain

1st-10, NO33 14:43 R. Bush rushed to the left for 4 yard gain

2nd-6, NO37 14:10 A. Stecker rushed up the middle for 6 yard gain

1st-10, CAR40 12:55 R. Bush rushed to the left for 3 yard gain

1st-10, CAR22 10:59 A. Stecker rushed to the left for 1 yard loss

1st-10, CAR12 10:11 R. Bush rushed to the right for 7 yard gain

2nd-3, CAR5 9:27 A. Stecker rushed up the middle for 4 yard gain

1st-1, CAR1 8:51 A. Stecker rushed to the left for 4 yard loss

1st-10, CAR49 5:39 P. Thomas rushed to the right for 4 yard gain

2nd-6, CAR45 5:00 A. Stecker rushed to the right for 9 yard gain

1st-10, CAR36 4:22 R. Bush rushed up the middle for 3 yard gain

2nd-10, NO40 0:19 R. Bush rushed to the left for 7 yard gain

2nd-10, NO27 14:50 P. Thomas rushed to the right for 9 yard gain

1st-10, NO42 13:37 R. Bush rushed to the right for 2 yard loss

2nd-12, NO40 13:01 A. Stecker rushed to the left for 4 yard gai

1st-4, CAR4 10:58 R. Bush rushed to the right for 3 yard gain

3rd-5, CAR8 6:14 D. Brees rushed to the left for 8 yard touchdown.

1st-10, CAR42 5:54 A. Stecker rushed to the right for 1 yard gain

1st-10, CAR30 4:49 A. Stecker rushed to the right for 2 yard gaiin

1st-10, CAR18 3:28 A. Stecker rushed to the left for no gain

1st-6, CAR6 1:35 M. Karney rushed up the middle for 2 yard gain

1st-10, NO21 14:13 P. Thomas rushed to the right for 3 yard gain

2nd-7, NO24 13:31 P. Thomas rushed to the left for 1 yard gain

1st-10, NO37 12:03 P. Thomas rushed to the left for 1 yard gain

2nd-9, NO38 11:18 P. Thomas rushed to the right for 3 yard loss

1st-10, NO49 8:41 P. Thomas rushed to the right for 1 yard gain

2nd-9, 50 7:57 P. Thomas rushed to the left for 4 yard gain

3rd-5, CAR46 7:13 P. Thomas rushed to the right for no gain

1st-10, NO38 3:08 P. Thomas rushed to the right for 2 yard gain

2nd-8, NO40 3:01 P. Thomas rushed to the right for 6 yard gain

3rd-2, NO46 2:17 P. Thomas rushed to the left for 4 yard gain

1st-10, 50 2:00 J. Martin rushed up the middle for 1 yard loss

2nd-11, NO49 1:19 J. Martin rushed up the middle for 1 yard loss

3rd-12, NO48 0:38 J. Martin rushed up the middle for 1 yard loss

Now, tell me their running game wasn't effective! The runs at the end (mainly by Pierre Thomas) weren't that great because we were running out the clock and no longer had a pass threat. Carolina no longer defended the pass and just came out to stop the run. However, for the first 3-quarters, we'd average ATLEAST 4-yards a carry.

Carolina's D didn't know what to do.

(And, of course, Jamie Martins 1-yard losses are from taking kneels.)

Sometimes, I wonder about you guys...

But, it's all love 'cause, come Sunday, we're all wearing Black and Gold.

LordOfEntropy · 11-26-2007, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by papz

On the side note, Carolina's D isn't exactly what I'd call bad.

Not bad by a long shot. Marshall was a BEAST in that game. And so was Beason. If I could have these names on my roster, I'd be in Heaven. Lucas, Gamble, Peppers, Rucker, Jenkins, Kemoeatu... not to mention Thomas Davis. I'm probably missing others I'd love to have as well.

No, they most certainly are "not bad".

WhoDat205 · 11-26-2007, 04:56 PM

I'll be the sacraficial lamb here...Jason David showed marked improvement Sunday. Smith caught a ball early, but was out of bounds and there was the interferance call, but in both situations, he was there to make a play which is more than you can say for past games. IIRC, he had one or two nice PD's, too. If he plays the rest of the season like he did Sunday, considder me pleased.

DISCLAIMER #1: He's still a terrible CB and should be sent packing. All I'm saying is he was serviceable against a really good WR...and at this point, I'll take servicable over what we've had at the #2CB.

DISCLAIMER #2: I couldn't tivo and watch the game again, so I may be totally wrong.

papz · 11-26-2007, 05:28 PM

I'll take serviceable if we continue to win. I hope David gets better... we need him to get better.

However I still was on the edge of my seat everytime I saw David man coverage on Smith... and it was a horrible feeling.

WhoDat205 · 11-26-2007, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by papz

I'll take serviceable if we continue to win. I hope David gets better... we need him to get better.

However I still was on the edge of my seat everytime I saw David man coverage on Smith... and it was a horrible feeling.

I was on the edge of my seat the entire game. I've learned to not trust this team at all.

Honestly, Carolina's performance was nothing short of terrible. Carr is a bum, they have no running game. The O-line was bad. The D-Line was awful. Outside of Marshall, Lucas and Smith, that team has packed it in for the season. Little solace can be taken in that victory.

papz · 11-26-2007, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat205

Honestly, Carolina's performance was nothing short of terrible. Carr is a bum, they have no running game. The O-line was bad. The D-Line was awful. Outside of Marshall, Lucas and Smith, that team has packed it in for the season. Little solace can be taken in that victory.

Agreed... got that needed W though. At least we finally beat a team we were suppose to beat.

hagan714 · 11-26-2007, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat205

I was on the edge of my seat the entire game. I've learned to not trust this team at all.

Have to say it is fun that way. Watching the pats demolish teams gets a bit boring for me. I find myself flipping channels. LOL

LongTimeFan · 11-26-2007, 08:32 PM

Saints really needed to win this game and they won so that's all that counts and I'm one happy Saints fan tonight.
It would have been worst if they would have lost, no? I think not.
The players know what's at stake right not and I feel that they'll beat the Bucs putting us only one game back, I also feel that the Bucs have a lost coming they're way and that will be on the road @ Houston.
Fans should be happy the Saints won which gives us hope again, that's all we can ask for right now.

11-26-2007, 10:51 AM	#11
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Another win beating up on the wounded and confused Combined rushing over 100 yards. I think that's acceptable.

11-26-2007, 11:06 AM	#12
BoudinSandwich OldiesDJ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Scott, LA Posts: 951 Blog Entries: 12	Re: Another win beating up on the wounded and confused Sure, we didn't have any break off runs, but here's the run log from the game courtesy of Yahoo! Sports: NFL - New Orleans Saints/Carolina Panthers Box Score Sunday November 25, 2007 - Yahoo! Sports 2nd-10, NO17 14:03 A. Stecker rushed to the left for 5 yard gain 1st-10, NO19 11:19 A. Stecker rushed to the right for 5 yard gain 2nd-5, NO24 10:48 R. Bush rushed to the left for 2 yard gain 3rd-8, NO21 9:38 A. Stecker rushed to the left for 7 yard gain 2nd-10, CAR47 6:56 R. Bush rushed to the left for 5 yard gain 1st-10, NO29 4:19 A. Stecker rushed to the right for 4 yard gain 1st-10, NO33 14:43 R. Bush rushed to the left for 4 yard gain 2nd-6, NO37 14:10 A. Stecker rushed up the middle for 6 yard gain 1st-10, CAR40 12:55 R. Bush rushed to the left for 3 yard gain 1st-10, CAR22 10:59 A. Stecker rushed to the left for 1 yard loss 1st-10, CAR12 10:11 R. Bush rushed to the right for 7 yard gain 2nd-3, CAR5 9:27 A. Stecker rushed up the middle for 4 yard gain 1st-1, CAR1 8:51 A. Stecker rushed to the left for 4 yard loss 1st-10, CAR49 5:39 P. Thomas rushed to the right for 4 yard gain 2nd-6, CAR45 5:00 A. Stecker rushed to the right for 9 yard gain 1st-10, CAR36 4:22 R. Bush rushed up the middle for 3 yard gain 2nd-10, NO40 0:19 R. Bush rushed to the left for 7 yard gain 2nd-10, NO27 14:50 P. Thomas rushed to the right for 9 yard gain 1st-10, NO42 13:37 R. Bush rushed to the right for 2 yard loss 2nd-12, NO40 13:01 A. Stecker rushed to the left for 4 yard gai 1st-4, CAR4 10:58 R. Bush rushed to the right for 3 yard gain 3rd-5, CAR8 6:14 D. Brees rushed to the left for 8 yard touchdown. 1st-10, CAR42 5:54 A. Stecker rushed to the right for 1 yard gain 1st-10, CAR30 4:49 A. Stecker rushed to the right for 2 yard gaiin 1st-10, CAR18 3:28 A. Stecker rushed to the left for no gain 1st-6, CAR6 1:35 M. Karney rushed up the middle for 2 yard gain 1st-10, NO21 14:13 P. Thomas rushed to the right for 3 yard gain 2nd-7, NO24 13:31 P. Thomas rushed to the left for 1 yard gain 1st-10, NO37 12:03 P. Thomas rushed to the left for 1 yard gain 2nd-9, NO38 11:18 P. Thomas rushed to the right for 3 yard loss 1st-10, NO49 8:41 P. Thomas rushed to the right for 1 yard gain 2nd-9, 50 7:57 P. Thomas rushed to the left for 4 yard gain 3rd-5, CAR46 7:13 P. Thomas rushed to the right for no gain 1st-10, NO38 3:08 P. Thomas rushed to the right for 2 yard gain 2nd-8, NO40 3:01 P. Thomas rushed to the right for 6 yard gain 3rd-2, NO46 2:17 P. Thomas rushed to the left for 4 yard gain 1st-10, 50 2:00 J. Martin rushed up the middle for 1 yard loss 2nd-11, NO49 1:19 J. Martin rushed up the middle for 1 yard loss 3rd-12, NO48 0:38 J. Martin rushed up the middle for 1 yard loss Now, tell me their running game wasn't effective! The runs at the end (mainly by Pierre Thomas) weren't that great because we were running out the clock and no longer had a pass threat. Carolina no longer defended the pass and just came out to stop the run. However, for the first 3-quarters, we'd average ATLEAST 4-yards a carry. Carolina's D didn't know what to do. (And, of course, Jamie Martins 1-yard losses are from taking kneels.) Sometimes, I wonder about you guys... But, it's all love 'cause, come Sunday, we're all wearing Black and Gold.
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11-26-2007, 11:18 AM	#13
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Re: Another win beating up on the wounded and confused Originally Posted by papz On the side note, Carolina's D isn't exactly what I'd call bad. Not bad by a long shot. Marshall was a BEAST in that game. And so was Beason. If I could have these names on my roster, I'd be in Heaven. Lucas, Gamble, Peppers, Rucker, Jenkins, Kemoeatu... not to mention Thomas Davis. I'm probably missing others I'd love to have as well. No, they most certainly are "not bad".

11-26-2007, 04:56 PM	#14
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Another win beating up on the wounded and confused I'll be the sacraficial lamb here...Jason David showed marked improvement Sunday. Smith caught a ball early, but was out of bounds and there was the interferance call, but in both situations, he was there to make a play which is more than you can say for past games. IIRC, he had one or two nice PD's, too. If he plays the rest of the season like he did Sunday, considder me pleased. DISCLAIMER #1: He's still a terrible CB and should be sent packing. All I'm saying is he was serviceable against a really good WR...and at this point, I'll take servicable over what we've had at the #2CB. DISCLAIMER #2: I couldn't tivo and watch the game again, so I may be totally wrong.
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11-26-2007, 05:28 PM	#15
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: Another win beating up on the wounded and confused I'll take serviceable if we continue to win. I hope David gets better... we need him to get better. However I still was on the edge of my seat everytime I saw David man coverage on Smith... and it was a horrible feeling.

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11-26-2007, 05:34 PM	#16
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Another win beating up on the wounded and confused Originally Posted by papz I'll take serviceable if we continue to win. I hope David gets better... we need him to get better. However I still was on the edge of my seat everytime I saw David man coverage on Smith... and it was a horrible feeling. I was on the edge of my seat the entire game. I've learned to not trust this team at all. Honestly, Carolina's performance was nothing short of terrible. Carr is a bum, they have no running game. The O-line was bad. The D-Line was awful. Outside of Marshall, Lucas and Smith, that team has packed it in for the season. Little solace can be taken in that victory.

11-26-2007, 07:16 PM	#17
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: Another win beating up on the wounded and confused Originally Posted by WhoDat205 Honestly, Carolina's performance was nothing short of terrible. Carr is a bum, they have no running game. The O-line was bad. The D-Line was awful. Outside of Marshall, Lucas and Smith, that team has packed it in for the season. Little solace can be taken in that victory. Agreed... got that needed W though. At least we finally beat a team we were suppose to beat.

11-26-2007, 07:28 PM	#18
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Another win beating up on the wounded and confused Originally Posted by WhoDat205 I was on the edge of my seat the entire game. I've learned to not trust this team at all. Have to say it is fun that way. Watching the pats demolish teams gets a bit boring for me. I find myself flipping channels. LOL

11-26-2007, 08:32 PM	#19
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	Re: Another win beating up on the wounded and confused Saints really needed to win this game and they won so that's all that counts and I'm one happy Saints fan tonight. It would have been worst if they would have lost, no? I think not. The players know what's at stake right not and I feel that they'll beat the Bucs putting us only one game back, I also feel that the Bucs have a lost coming they're way and that will be on the road @ Houston. Fans should be happy the Saints won which gives us hope again, that's all we can ask for right now.
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