Who Would You Start?

LordOfEntropy · 11-28-2007, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Well the way teams have been playing us every down is a passing down.

Too true, too true.

I found your lineup for 3rd and medium interesting. Moving Stinch to G and throwing in Strief is something I'd never considered. Do you have that much confidence in Strief? Has this actually occured anytime this season?

hagan714 · 11-28-2007, 09:50 AM

I like the mobility the left side would offer. With brown over at left the defense would have to respect the run to the left. If you roll the pocket to the left it would cause the defense to over load to that side opening up the middle up the left seem. The left would have to seal only. Thats were the mobility would pay off and Brees would be moving away from that side. Back door screen would work too. TE and WR blocking.

LordOfEntropy · 11-28-2007, 09:54 AM

You sound like a coach, and it's an interesting idea. Do you know if this lineup has ever been used, i.e. moving Stinch to G while Strief comes in at T? If so I haven't seen it - but then again, I haven't been looking for it either.

xan · 11-28-2007, 10:04 AM

QB - Brees
RB - Branch - get this Bruiser off the Practice Squad
RB - Bush - mix in Karney every now and then
WR - Colston, Patten, Devery, Moore, Copper - at least two of these guys need to run long on every play.
TE - Johnson/Miller - these guys need to run the seam route all day
LT - Brown
LG - Nesbit
C - Goodwin
RG - Evans
RT - Stinch

FS - Bullocks (On a short leash) - VERY SHORT with KK in there early and often.
SS - Harper (so so on him right now.)
CB - MM, KK - he's got to be a better corner than David (cut David),Craft, Young (Craft has been really good this year, all get some PT)
OLB - Fuji, Shanle
MLB - Simmons
DE - Grant, Smith
DT - HT, Young, Lake then Clancy.

WhoDat205 · 11-28-2007, 10:17 AM

Why is it that Miller keeps snapping off long pass plays with a bunch of YAC, and Johnson keeps getting the 5-10 yard dumps and falling down? Is it just a matter of Miller being lower priority to the Ds or is it the routes he has called?

JOESAM2002 · 11-28-2007, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat205

Why is it that Miller keeps snapping off long pass plays with a bunch of YAC, and Johnson keeps getting the 5-10 yard dumps and falling down? Is it just a matter of Miller being lower priority to the Ds or is it the routes he has called?

Good point. I think Billy feels he has more to prove and goes out and does it. I liked him when he was in Houston too. I really don't know what Johnsons problem is. I wish I knew. But you are right, he catches the ball and goes down like he is afraid of getting hurt.

P.S. Please bring Branch up from the practice squad. This kid is good too. He just needs a chance,just like Thomas. If you don't get playing time you will never know what to do or where your blockers are.

Budsdrinker · 11-28-2007, 02:22 PM

I need to watch more where the passes are thrown but it seems to me Johnson catches more in the middle of the field where Miller catches his on the outside and heads down the sidelines.

hagan714 · 11-28-2007, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by LordOfEntropy

You sound like a coach, and it's an interesting idea. Do you know if this lineup has ever been used, i.e. moving Stinch to G while Strief comes in at T? If so I haven't seen it - but then again, I haven't been looking for it either.

LOL does pee wee count. I did play some ball years ago. More than anything I am a fan. A junkie. I have stood up many a good looking woman over the sport. Still do it today. LOL

As for lineup no i have not seen it. I think it would work. They all would be playing a position they have experience with. I think the defense would be confused and forced to call a time out. If not some one would blow an assignment. Just moving brown to the RT position would cause concern.

As for Johnson he will always get more attention than Miller based on his reputation.

QBREES9 · 11-28-2007, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by xan

QB - Brees
RB - Branch - get this Bruiser off the Practice Squad
RB - Bush - mix in Karney every now and then
WR - Colston, Patten, Devery, Moore, Copper - at least two of these guys need to run long on every play.
TE - Johnson/Miller - these guys need to run the seam route all day
LT - Brown
LG - Nesbit
C - Goodwin
RG - Evans
RT - Stinch

FS - Bullocks (On a short leash) - VERY SHORT with KK in there early and often.
SS - Harper (so so on him right now.)
CB - MM, KK - he's got to be a better corner than David (cut David),Craft, Young (Craft has been really good this year, all get some PT)
OLB - Fuji, Shanle
MLB - Simmons
DE - Grant, Smith
DT - HT, Young, Lake then Clancy.

i agree....you said it best

BoudinSandwich · 11-29-2007, 05:44 AM

Ya know, at the beginning of the season, I kept saying that Hollis Thomas should start on the D line because I liked the way he performed better. I remember everyone else said he was out of shape and he wasn't the player he used to be. I could careless about his weight. That's just an extra somany-pounds the offensive lineman has to block.

I'm glad Hollis has played to his ability and I hope he continues to keep impressing everyone.

11-28-2007, 08:58 AM	#21
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Re: Who Would You Start? Originally Posted by hagan714 Well the way teams have been playing us every down is a passing down. Too true, too true. I found your lineup for 3rd and medium interesting. Moving Stinch to G and throwing in Strief is something I'd never considered. Do you have that much confidence in Strief? Has this actually occured anytime this season?

11-28-2007, 09:50 AM	#22
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Who Would You Start? I like the mobility the left side would offer. With brown over at left the defense would have to respect the run to the left. If you roll the pocket to the left it would cause the defense to over load to that side opening up the middle up the left seem. The left would have to seal only. Thats were the mobility would pay off and Brees would be moving away from that side. Back door screen would work too. TE and WR blocking.

11-28-2007, 09:54 AM	#23
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Re: Who Would You Start? You sound like a coach, and it's an interesting idea. Do you know if this lineup has ever been used, i.e. moving Stinch to G while Strief comes in at T? If so I haven't seen it - but then again, I haven't been looking for it either.

11-28-2007, 10:04 AM	#24
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,369 Blog Entries: 34	Re: Who Would You Start? QB - Brees RB - Branch - get this Bruiser off the Practice Squad RB - Bush - mix in Karney every now and then WR - Colston, Patten, Devery, Moore, Copper - at least two of these guys need to run long on every play. TE - Johnson/Miller - these guys need to run the seam route all day LT - Brown LG - Nesbit C - Goodwin RG - Evans RT - Stinch FS - Bullocks (On a short leash) - VERY SHORT with KK in there early and often. SS - Harper (so so on him right now.) CB - MM, KK - he's got to be a better corner than David (cut David),Craft, Young (Craft has been really good this year, all get some PT) OLB - Fuji, Shanle MLB - Simmons DE - Grant, Smith DT - HT, Young, Lake then Clancy.
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11-28-2007, 10:17 AM	#25
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11-28-2007, 02:19 PM	#26
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: Who Would You Start? Originally Posted by WhoDat205 Why is it that Miller keeps snapping off long pass plays with a bunch of YAC, and Johnson keeps getting the 5-10 yard dumps and falling down? Is it just a matter of Miller being lower priority to the Ds or is it the routes he has called? Good point. I think Billy feels he has more to prove and goes out and does it. I liked him when he was in Houston too. I really don't know what Johnsons problem is. I wish I knew. But you are right, he catches the ball and goes down like he is afraid of getting hurt. P.S. Please bring Branch up from the practice squad. This kid is good too. He just needs a chance,just like Thomas. If you don't get playing time you will never know what to do or where your blockers are.

11-28-2007, 02:22 PM	#27
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Who Would You Start? I need to watch more where the passes are thrown but it seems to me Johnson catches more in the middle of the field where Miller catches his on the outside and heads down the sidelines.

11-28-2007, 06:01 PM	#28
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Who Would You Start? Originally Posted by LordOfEntropy You sound like a coach, and it's an interesting idea. Do you know if this lineup has ever been used, i.e. moving Stinch to G while Strief comes in at T? If so I haven't seen it - but then again, I haven't been looking for it either. LOL does pee wee count. I did play some ball years ago. More than anything I am a fan. A junkie. I have stood up many a good looking woman over the sport. Still do it today. LOL As for lineup no i have not seen it. I think it would work. They all would be playing a position they have experience with. I think the defense would be confused and forced to call a time out. If not some one would blow an assignment. Just moving brown to the RT position would cause concern. As for Johnson he will always get more attention than Miller based on his reputation.
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11-28-2007, 10:21 PM	#29
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: Who Would You Start? Originally Posted by xan QB - Brees RB - Branch - get this Bruiser off the Practice Squad RB - Bush - mix in Karney every now and then WR - Colston, Patten, Devery, Moore, Copper - at least two of these guys need to run long on every play. TE - Johnson/Miller - these guys need to run the seam route all day LT - Brown LG - Nesbit C - Goodwin RG - Evans RT - Stinch FS - Bullocks (On a short leash) - VERY SHORT with KK in there early and often. SS - Harper (so so on him right now.) CB - MM, KK - he's got to be a better corner than David (cut David),Craft, Young (Craft has been really good this year, all get some PT) OLB - Fuji, Shanle MLB - Simmons DE - Grant, Smith DT - HT, Young, Lake then Clancy. i agree....you said it best

11-29-2007, 05:44 AM	#30
BoudinSandwich OldiesDJ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Scott, LA Posts: 951 Blog Entries: 12	Re: Who Would You Start? Ya know, at the beginning of the season, I kept saying that Hollis Thomas should start on the D line because I liked the way he performed better. I remember everyone else said he was out of shape and he wasn't the player he used to be. I could careless about his weight. That's just an extra somany-pounds the offensive lineman has to block. I'm glad Hollis has played to his ability and I hope he continues to keep impressing everyone.