Fred Thomas Article

BillyCarpenter1 · 08-01-2003, 04:31 PM

Time to get physical
Fred Thomas makes effort to get stronger in the offseason.
Eric Narcisse
enarcisse@theadvertiser.com

August 1, 2003

METAIRIE ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â€Â A lot of players in the NFL these days take it as a slap in the face, when their team goes out and sign, trade or draft a player that plays the same position as them

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tweeky · 08-01-2003, 04:35 PM

Trufant???
We don\'t need no stinkin Trufant!

BillyCarpenter1 · 08-01-2003, 04:39 PM

he finished with 79 tackles (61 solo), a career high five interceptions, 21 passes defended, two forced fumbles, one fumble recovery and one sack, despite playing with a fractured left hand for the majority of the season.

I\'ll tell you what, I didn\'t realize what good stats Thomas put up last year and remember he did this with the terrible D-line we had last year. 79 tackles is a hell of a lot for a cornerback.

Those are Sammy Knight numbers, right?

[Edited on 1/8/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]

lumm0x · 08-01-2003, 05:10 PM

And you have to take into account he did alot of this with the ball cast on his hand for most of the season. He was hurt all year and played his butt off.

BlackandBlue · 08-01-2003, 05:19 PM

79 tackles is a hell of a lot for a cornerback.

It\'s TOO much for a CB that was injured for most of the year. Read between the lines. If your CB is making all the tackles for the team, it means that the opponent\'s QB/WR combo were completing too many passes.

[Edited on 1/8/2003 by BlackandBlue]

BillyCarpenter1 · 08-01-2003, 05:27 PM

It\'s TOO much for a CB that was injured for most of the year. Read between the lines. If your CB is making all the tackles for the team, it means that the opponent\'s QB/WR combo were completing too many passes.

Champ Bailey 16 68 62 6 .0 3 2 .7 0 0 0

Ronde Barber 76 63 13 3 0 0 2 20

You sure about that?

BlackandBlue · 08-01-2003, 05:29 PM

It\'s TOO much for a CB that was injured for most of the year.

Heh, yeah, I\'m sure. Don\'t get me wrong, I love Fred Thomas. I\'m not pointing the finger at him. I think he was called on too many times last year to be the one to make the plays, mostly on runs. If your CB\'s are the one\'s stopping the RB, you\'ve got bigger problems.

[Edited on 1/8/2003 by BlackandBlue]

BillyCarpenter1 · 08-01-2003, 05:30 PM

Ok , but I think a lot of those tackles were on running plays.

roughneck · 08-01-2003, 08:07 PM

Bailey was also called upon to make too many tackles to compensate for the Linebackers who weren\'t doing their jobs. For all of you calling for more playmakers or \"Big Name\" free agents to come to the Saints, Consider this: The Foreskins had a trio of Pro Bowl Linebackers last year (Arrington, Trotter, Armstead) They were horrible as a group. I believe the quote I have been hearing about this is \"Too many Playmakers. Not enough Players\". Citing the lack of Role Players on that \"D\" is the pundits reasoning for their lack of production. I for one agree with this.

The best example of this last year was The Bucs \"D\". They were not short of Role Players on that \"D\" despite the number of \"Big\" names. They seemed to have the right balance. I hope that falls through this year or that the Saints \"O\" continues to use them like they did last year!

rusta · 08-01-2003, 10:19 PM

screw tampa, i\'ll take NE\'s defense of 2 years ago any day

that was a team that knew how to work together and play as a team, they had no \"playmakers\" and they won the superbowl over the \"greatest show on turf\", they looked a little shabby last year in part due to the pressure applied by lack of offensive help(running game was horrible compared to super bowl year) but NE will have another outstanding D this year and they still don\'t have any \"playmakers\"

tampa on the other hand is looking at their D\'s last year together because they can\'t afford to keep all those \"playmakers\"

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tweeky 500th Post Join Date: May 2003 Location: South Alabama Posts: 779	Fred Thomas Article Trufant??? We don\'t need no stinkin Trufant!

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BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Fred Thomas Article he finished with 79 tackles (61 solo), a career high five interceptions, 21 passes defended, two forced fumbles, one fumble recovery and one sack, despite playing with a fractured left hand for the majority of the season. I\'ll tell you what, I didn\'t realize what good stats Thomas put up last year and remember he did this with the terrible D-line we had last year. 79 tackles is a hell of a lot for a cornerback. Those are Sammy Knight numbers, right? [Edited on 1/8/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]
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lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Fred Thomas Article And you have to take into account he did alot of this with the ball cast on his hand for most of the season. He was hurt all year and played his butt off.

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BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Fred Thomas Article 79 tackles is a hell of a lot for a cornerback. It\'s TOO much for a CB that was injured for most of the year. Read between the lines. If your CB is making all the tackles for the team, it means that the opponent\'s QB/WR combo were completing too many passes. [Edited on 1/8/2003 by BlackandBlue]

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BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Fred Thomas Article It\'s TOO much for a CB that was injured for most of the year. Read between the lines. If your CB is making all the tackles for the team, it means that the opponent\'s QB/WR combo were completing too many passes. Champ Bailey 16 68 62 6 .0 3 2 .7 0 0 0 Ronde Barber 76 63 13 3 0 0 2 20 You sure about that?
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BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Fred Thomas Article It\'s TOO much for a CB that was injured for most of the year. Heh, yeah, I\'m sure. Don\'t get me wrong, I love Fred Thomas. I\'m not pointing the finger at him. I think he was called on too many times last year to be the one to make the plays, mostly on runs. If your CB\'s are the one\'s stopping the RB, you\'ve got bigger problems. [Edited on 1/8/2003 by BlackandBlue]

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BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Fred Thomas Article Ok , but I think a lot of those tackles were on running plays.
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roughneck Registered Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 41	Fred Thomas Article Bailey was also called upon to make too many tackles to compensate for the Linebackers who weren\'t doing their jobs. For all of you calling for more playmakers or \"Big Name\" free agents to come to the Saints, Consider this: The Foreskins had a trio of Pro Bowl Linebackers last year (Arrington, Trotter, Armstead) They were horrible as a group. I believe the quote I have been hearing about this is \"Too many Playmakers. Not enough Players\". Citing the lack of Role Players on that \"D\" is the pundits reasoning for their lack of production. I for one agree with this. The best example of this last year was The Bucs \"D\". They were not short of Role Players on that \"D\" despite the number of \"Big\" names. They seemed to have the right balance. I hope that falls through this year or that the Saints \"O\" continues to use them like they did last year!
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rusta 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 361	Fred Thomas Article screw tampa, i\'ll take NE\'s defense of 2 years ago any day that was a team that knew how to work together and play as a team, they had no \"playmakers\" and they won the superbowl over the \"greatest show on turf\", they looked a little shabby last year in part due to the pressure applied by lack of offensive help(running game was horrible compared to super bowl year) but NE will have another outstanding D this year and they still don\'t have any \"playmakers\" tampa on the other hand is looking at their D\'s last year together because they can\'t afford to keep all those \"playmakers\"
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