not paytons fault on reverse

Euphoria · 12-03-2007, 11:39 AM

DON"T BLAME REGGIE??? You can blame him. He choked and wasn't the first time he choked this year.

I don't blame people for wanting to stick up for your players based with your heart but when they choke and bite. Then its time to man up and say 'yeah my guy blew it'. He wasn't the only one we were just out played by a better team across the board though. MM was really the only stand out.

admin · 12-03-2007, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

DON"T BLAME REGGIE??? You can blame him. He choked and wasn't the first time he choked this year.

I don't blame people for wanting to stick up for your players based with your heart but when they choke and bite. Then its time to man up and say 'yeah my guy blew it'. He wasn't the only one we were just out played by a better team across the board though. MM was really the only stand out.

Euphoria,

It wasn't Bush's fault. The head coach took blame for the call and I'm sorry but a pitch back double reverse with a defense who is stacking the line to stop a run is not what I would call smart. That play requires too many people to pitch the ball around at a critical time. You can blame reggie all you want, but you're wrong, the play should never have been called and it practically setup the team for failure because 1) the play too way too long to develop and 2) required too much pitching with a stacked line.

What's sad is there was supposed to be another pitch afterward.

And as for your point about Reggie "choking", please name 3 other times Reggie choked on critical plays that cost the Saints the game.

Euphoria · 12-03-2007, 11:59 AM

You blame Reggie for the execution of the play. You can call any play you want but if the players don't execute its there fault as well. I am saying everyone is to blame. One bad call doesn't lose you the game 60 minutes will win or lose a game for you.

FireVenturi · 12-03-2007, 06:35 PM

reggie sucks he cant catch and he dont like to get hit.....ps that play should have been up the middle.

JOESAM2002 · 12-04-2007, 12:23 AM

You're right about the fact that it takes 60 minutes to lose a game but this game was in hand. A stupid play call is what killed this game. Sure we were outplayed, but that's happened many times to many teams throughout the years. It's not always the best team that wins. Sometime you get lucky and steal one. This one SHOULD have been stolen from Tampa.

If not for a stupid play call, we had a very good chance of winning that game. Execution of a play or not. One or two first downs and the game is over,Saints win. Even though we were outplayed.

NEXTPROBOWLER · 12-03-2007, 12:55 PM

supes no offense, but alabama blows plain and simple

Supes · 12-03-2007, 01:06 PM

i know they do
i'm a Miss State Fan
i just know some Alabama Fans and that is why i used the reference

admin · 12-03-2007, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by NEXTPROBOWLER

supes no offense, but alabama blows plain and simple

Alright alight... that's all college stuff. Back to Pro football. You guys can get a room in the college football forum

lynwood · 12-03-2007, 07:12 PM

Everyone here is wrong.

The play that cost us the game was the Defense not stopping Tampa on that 4th down. Gruden called his FG unit back and went for it challenging our D. That was the Game right there. Yeah Payton made a screwball call too that was poorly executed at the wrong time but that didn't cost us the game.

andersen · 12-04-2007, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by lynwood

Everyone here is wrong.

The play that cost us the game was the Defense not stopping Tampa on that 4th down. Gruden called his FG unit back and went for it challenging our D. That was the Game right there. Yeah Payton made a screwball call too that was poorly executed at the wrong time but that didn't cost us the game.

Yes, and the pass to the running back that went for 25. That changed it between a FG and the win. Shanlee was faked out of his jock on that play. The real reason we lost (AGAIN) is the pathethic defense we are putting on the field.

12-03-2007, 11:39 AM	#1
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: not paytons fault on reverse DON"T BLAME REGGIE??? You can blame him. He choked and wasn't the first time he choked this year. I don't blame people for wanting to stick up for your players based with your heart but when they choke and bite. Then its time to man up and say 'yeah my guy blew it'. He wasn't the only one we were just out played by a better team across the board though. MM was really the only stand out.

12-03-2007, 11:47 AM	#2
admin Site Admin Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,971 Blog Entries: 2	Re: not paytons fault on reverse Originally Posted by Euphoria DON"T BLAME REGGIE??? You can blame him. He choked and wasn't the first time he choked this year. I don't blame people for wanting to stick up for your players based with your heart but when they choke and bite. Then its time to man up and say 'yeah my guy blew it'. He wasn't the only one we were just out played by a better team across the board though. MM was really the only stand out. Euphoria, It wasn't Bush's fault. The head coach took blame for the call and I'm sorry but a pitch back double reverse with a defense who is stacking the line to stop a run is not what I would call smart. That play requires too many people to pitch the ball around at a critical time. You can blame reggie all you want, but you're wrong, the play should never have been called and it practically setup the team for failure because 1) the play too way too long to develop and 2) required too much pitching with a stacked line. What's sad is there was supposed to be another pitch afterward. And as for your point about Reggie "choking", please name 3 other times Reggie choked on critical plays that cost the Saints the game.
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12-03-2007, 11:59 AM	#3
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: not paytons fault on reverse You blame Reggie for the execution of the play. You can call any play you want but if the players don't execute its there fault as well. I am saying everyone is to blame. One bad call doesn't lose you the game 60 minutes will win or lose a game for you.

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FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	Re: not paytons fault on reverse reggie sucks he cant catch and he dont like to get hit.....ps that play should have been up the middle.

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JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: not paytons fault on reverse You're right about the fact that it takes 60 minutes to lose a game but this game was in hand. A stupid play call is what killed this game. Sure we were outplayed, but that's happened many times to many teams throughout the years. It's not always the best team that wins. Sometime you get lucky and steal one. This one SHOULD have been stolen from Tampa. If not for a stupid play call, we had a very good chance of winning that game. Execution of a play or not. One or two first downs and the game is over,Saints win. Even though we were outplayed.
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12-03-2007, 01:52 PM	#8
admin Site Admin Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,971 Blog Entries: 2	Re: not paytons fault on reverse Originally Posted by NEXTPROBOWLER supes no offense, but alabama blows plain and simple Alright alight... that's all college stuff. Back to Pro football. You guys can get a room in the college football forum

12-03-2007, 07:12 PM	#9
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	Re: not paytons fault on reverse Everyone here is wrong. The play that cost us the game was the Defense not stopping Tampa on that 4th down. Gruden called his FG unit back and went for it challenging our D. That was the Game right there. Yeah Payton made a screwball call too that was poorly executed at the wrong time but that didn't cost us the game.

12-04-2007, 09:35 AM	#10
andersen With an "E" Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Madisonville, LA Posts: 429	Re: not paytons fault on reverse Originally Posted by lynwood Everyone here is wrong. The play that cost us the game was the Defense not stopping Tampa on that 4th down. Gruden called his FG unit back and went for it challenging our D. That was the Game right there. Yeah Payton made a screwball call too that was poorly executed at the wrong time but that didn't cost us the game. Yes, and the pass to the running back that went for 25. That changed it between a FG and the win. Shanlee was faked out of his jock on that play. The real reason we lost (AGAIN) is the pathethic defense we are putting on the field.