Confidence in Payton

reggiedude · 12-03-2007, 10:33 PM

With the play call that basically cost us the game, I am wondering if the players are having confidence issues with Payton as a coach. If the coach is calling plays that will lose games and player confidence heads south then so does the team. We will see how this team responds for the next 4 games, if they tank it or play hard for coach Payton??

QBREES9 · 12-03-2007, 10:54 PM

Payton will learn from this bad experience. In fact, if he studies the tape of how Gruden handled his aggressiveness with control, he'll be an even better play-caller for the future.

Then cut those players. The door is cracked open its not closed yet. YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME.........HELLO...... YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME.

blacksaint · 12-03-2007, 11:08 PM

I don't think the players will question him, if no one haven't to this point, they won't now. Payton just has to learn from this and move on.

JOESAM2002 · 12-04-2007, 01:01 AM

Where you been Blacksaint? Good to have you back. Or am I just blind and didn't see you around?

hagan714 · 12-04-2007, 08:29 AM

He resurfaces!!!!!!!!!!!! good to see ya.
No Sean has my vote still. I think he will learn. The statement Henderson would still be running if the pitch worked is not correct. The game tape will show the panthers did not bite hard on the misdirection. Any how Sean did learn something. I HOPE

WhoDatQB · 12-04-2007, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

He resurfaces!!!!!!!!!!!! good to see ya.
No Sean has my vote still. I think he will learn. The statement Henderson would still be running if the pitch worked is not correct. The game tape will show the panthers did not bite hard on the misdirection. Any how Sean did learn something. I HOPE

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If the Panthers bit on that play all the way in Charlotte and after their game was over they are worse than they looked last Sunday. LOL

LongTimeFan · 12-04-2007, 03:55 PM

IMO the players still believe in their coach and will continue to play hard for him and they know he'll turn this team around sooner than later.
Sean called a bad play at the wrong time on the game, don't you think he still feels bad for his mistake?, I say yes he does.

Donuts32 · 12-04-2007, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

Payton will learn from this bad experience. In fact, if he studies the tape of how Gruden handled his aggressiveness with control, he'll be an even better play-caller for the future.

Then cut those players. The door is cracked open its not closed yet. YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME.........HELLO...... YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME.

Thats probably one of my favorite qoutes from Herm. I still have confidence in Payton. The team needs to speak up and say no Coach I dont like this play or hey Coach how about if we do this on this play. Reggie needs to open his mouth to Payton and tell him what he feels comfortable doing. Its about communication between the coach and players and I see none going on. If we have any shot of winning we need to communicate.

hagan714 · 12-04-2007, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDatQB

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If the Panthers bit on that play all the way in Charlotte and after their game was over they are worse than they looked last Sunday. LOL

LOL so true. these games are all running together.

WillMacKenzie · 12-05-2007, 07:28 PM

Remember how "Instantaneously" Sean Payton adjusted his game plans for more running?

NFC Conference Game and counting, still haven't seen the fruit of it.

Remember all the "success" we had with blitzing?

Still don't see any type of commitment to blitzing and attacking defense.

The only vibes I get from this whole dink n' dunk regime of Paytons is that they're a little too "smart" for their own good. A little too theory and artsy. A little too pro-character, rather than smack you in the mouth (the quintessential hallmark of FOOTBALL).

Merry Christmas!

12-03-2007, 10:33 PM	#1
reggiedude Registered Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 76	Confidence in Payton With the play call that basically cost us the game, I am wondering if the players are having confidence issues with Payton as a coach. If the coach is calling plays that will lose games and player confidence heads south then so does the team. We will see how this team responds for the next 4 games, if they tank it or play hard for coach Payton??
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12-03-2007, 10:54 PM	#2
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: Confidence in Payton Payton will learn from this bad experience. In fact, if he studies the tape of how Gruden handled his aggressiveness with control, he'll be an even better play-caller for the future. Then cut those players. The door is cracked open its not closed yet. YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME.........HELLO...... YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME.

12-03-2007, 11:08 PM	#3
blacksaint DARE TO ENTER Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Home Sweet Home, NEW ORLEANS, La. Posts: 1,154	Re: Confidence in Payton I don't think the players will question him, if no one haven't to this point, they won't now. Payton just has to learn from this and move on.

12-04-2007, 01:01 AM	#4
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: Confidence in Payton Where you been Blacksaint? Good to have you back. Or am I just blind and didn't see you around?

12-04-2007, 08:29 AM	#5
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Confidence in Payton He resurfaces!!!!!!!!!!!! good to see ya. No Sean has my vote still. I think he will learn. The statement Henderson would still be running if the pitch worked is not correct. The game tape will show the panthers did not bite hard on the misdirection. Any how Sean did learn something. I HOPE

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12-04-2007, 10:48 AM	#6
WhoDatQB Boondock Saint Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: F***ing Atlanta Posts: 322	Re: Confidence in Payton Originally Posted by hagan714 He resurfaces!!!!!!!!!!!! good to see ya. No Sean has my vote still. I think he will learn. The statement Henderson would still be running if the pitch worked is not correct. The game tape will show the panthers did not bite hard on the misdirection. Any how Sean did learn something. I HOPE ===== If the Panthers bit on that play all the way in Charlotte and after their game was over they are worse than they looked last Sunday. LOL

12-04-2007, 03:55 PM	#7
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	Re: Confidence in Payton IMO the players still believe in their coach and will continue to play hard for him and they know he'll turn this team around sooner than later. Sean called a bad play at the wrong time on the game, don't you think he still feels bad for his mistake?, I say yes he does.

12-04-2007, 09:13 PM	#8
Donuts32 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Orleans,La Posts: 306	Re: Confidence in Payton Originally Posted by QBREES9 Payton will learn from this bad experience. In fact, if he studies the tape of how Gruden handled his aggressiveness with control, he'll be an even better play-caller for the future. Then cut those players. The door is cracked open its not closed yet. YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME.........HELLO...... YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME. Thats probably one of my favorite qoutes from Herm. I still have confidence in Payton. The team needs to speak up and say no Coach I dont like this play or hey Coach how about if we do this on this play. Reggie needs to open his mouth to Payton and tell him what he feels comfortable doing. Its about communication between the coach and players and I see none going on. If we have any shot of winning we need to communicate.

12-04-2007, 09:30 PM	#9
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Confidence in Payton Originally Posted by WhoDatQB ===== If the Panthers bit on that play all the way in Charlotte and after their game was over they are worse than they looked last Sunday. LOL LOL so true. these games are all running together.

12-05-2007, 07:28 PM	#10
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: Confidence in Payton Remember how "Instantaneously" Sean Payton adjusted his game plans for more running? NFC Conference Game and counting, still haven't seen the fruit of it. Remember all the "success" we had with blitzing? Still don't see any type of commitment to blitzing and attacking defense. The only vibes I get from this whole dink n' dunk regime of Paytons is that they're a little too "smart" for their own good. A little too theory and artsy. A little too pro-character, rather than smack you in the mouth (the quintessential hallmark of FOOTBALL). Merry Christmas!