Kaesviharn could get more time

WhoDat205 · 12-05-2007, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Agreed, but why didn't we take a timeout when they moved Stevens out there??

Originally Posted by JOESAM2002

Good question. I wish I had an answer to it.

I guessing that was sarcasm, right? Because we were out of them. I'm not jumping on the "fire payton" bus, but his use of Time Outs is terrible. He constantly uses TOs in the 3rd quarter to change schemes defensively and it constantly bites us in the butt.

I wish someone smarter than I am would do a statistical analysis on what a Time Out is worth, kinda like the economist that did the study saying that teams should go for it on 4th and 10 anywhere past their 35yl. I'd just be interested to see how many yards a TO is worth statistically speaking.

JOESAM2002 · 12-05-2007, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat205

I guessing that was sarcasm, right? Because we were out of them. I'm not jumping on the "fire payton" bus, but his use of Time Outs is terrible. He constantly uses TOs in the 3rd quarter to change schemes defensively and it constantly bites us in the butt.

I wish someone smarter than I am would do a statistical analysis on what a Time Out is worth, kinda like the economist that did the study saying that teams should go for it on 4th and 10 anywhere past their 35yl. I'd just be interested to see how many yards a TO is worth statistically speaking.

Man, can you imagine how many answers there would be to that question?
There would be so many things that would change the answer. Like What yard line they are on. What down is it. I think far to many variables to get one firm answer. But boy if you could........

Dan the Man · 12-05-2007, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat205

I probably the leader of the Usama Young fan club here, but I gotta say, Jason Craft has been playing lights out this year. I'd start him over both David and Young at this point.

I know he had the winning TD completed on him, but he was in position, it was just a good throw and an excellent catch.

Agreed 100% WhoDat.

I don't think Kaesviharn needs to be replacing Harper for good. Harper had one bad game. How often do you see him missing tackles? He's usually out there laying guys out. I agree he did miss some key tackles on Sunday, but I've seen Kaesviharn miss plenty too. When he was with the Bengals he wasn't that great at stopping the run, and in the preseason he missed so many tackles on 2nd and 3rd string running backs it wasn't even funny. He's good in coverage, and I wouldn't mind him replacing Bullocks at the Free Safety spot so much, but he is not a Strong Safety.

Turbo Saint · 12-05-2007, 12:51 PM

yea replacing harper is def not the answer...bullocks maybe :P

JOESAM2002 · 12-05-2007, 04:14 PM

How about Bullocks ad David both?

hagan714 · 12-05-2007, 06:42 PM

Get ready for alot of changes is my guess at this point. We are mathematically alive while being dead. Talk about statistics. You can get the numbers to say whatever you want. As for the time outs, if the defense was better we would not be calling them so quickly. Sean has faith in Drew and running a 2 minute offense without them. This was a game that could turn on ever series. It makes no logical sense to me to burn them but then again with our defense logic has nothing to do with it.

12-05-2007, 11:34 AM	#11
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Kaesviharn could get more time Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Agreed, but why didn't we take a timeout when they moved Stevens out there?? Originally Posted by JOESAM2002 Good question. I wish I had an answer to it. I guessing that was sarcasm, right? Because we were out of them. I'm not jumping on the "fire payton" bus, but his use of Time Outs is terrible. He constantly uses TOs in the 3rd quarter to change schemes defensively and it constantly bites us in the butt. I wish someone smarter than I am would do a statistical analysis on what a Time Out is worth, kinda like the economist that did the study saying that teams should go for it on 4th and 10 anywhere past their 35yl. I'd just be interested to see how many yards a TO is worth statistically speaking.
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12-05-2007, 11:40 AM	#12
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: Kaesviharn could get more time Originally Posted by WhoDat205 I guessing that was sarcasm, right? Because we were out of them. I'm not jumping on the "fire payton" bus, but his use of Time Outs is terrible. He constantly uses TOs in the 3rd quarter to change schemes defensively and it constantly bites us in the butt. I wish someone smarter than I am would do a statistical analysis on what a Time Out is worth, kinda like the economist that did the study saying that teams should go for it on 4th and 10 anywhere past their 35yl. I'd just be interested to see how many yards a TO is worth statistically speaking. Man, can you imagine how many answers there would be to that question? There would be so many things that would change the answer. Like What yard line they are on. What down is it. I think far to many variables to get one firm answer. But boy if you could........

12-05-2007, 11:59 AM	#13
Dan the Man Registered Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: New Orleans Posts: 87	Re: Kaesviharn could get more time Originally Posted by WhoDat205 I probably the leader of the Usama Young fan club here, but I gotta say, Jason Craft has been playing lights out this year. I'd start him over both David and Young at this point. I know he had the winning TD completed on him, but he was in position, it was just a good throw and an excellent catch. Agreed 100% WhoDat. I don't think Kaesviharn needs to be replacing Harper for good. Harper had one bad game. How often do you see him missing tackles? He's usually out there laying guys out. I agree he did miss some key tackles on Sunday, but I've seen Kaesviharn miss plenty too. When he was with the Bengals he wasn't that great at stopping the run, and in the preseason he missed so many tackles on 2nd and 3rd string running backs it wasn't even funny. He's good in coverage, and I wouldn't mind him replacing Bullocks at the Free Safety spot so much, but he is not a Strong Safety.

12-05-2007, 12:51 PM	#14
Turbo Saint SoCal Saint Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: OB - San Diego, CA Posts: 726	Re: Kaesviharn could get more time yea replacing harper is def not the answer...bullocks maybe :P

12-05-2007, 04:14 PM	#15
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: Kaesviharn could get more time How about Bullocks ad David both?

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12-05-2007, 06:42 PM	#16
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Kaesviharn could get more time Get ready for alot of changes is my guess at this point. We are mathematically alive while being dead. Talk about statistics. You can get the numbers to say whatever you want. As for the time outs, if the defense was better we would not be calling them so quickly. Sean has faith in Drew and running a 2 minute offense without them. This was a game that could turn on ever series. It makes no logical sense to me to burn them but then again with our defense logic has nothing to do with it.