Cut the cutesy stuff

QBREES9 · 12-05-2007, 08:35 PM

EDITORIAL: Cut the cutesy stuff- NOLA.com

Offensive lineman Jon Stinchcomb argued Sunday night on television that the offense should have made the play work. Well, that would've been lovely. Except that Jamaal Brown couldn't hold a block against a rookie 50 pounds lighter than he is. And Reggie Bush and Devery Henderson are known for bobbling the ball on a regular basis.

So the blame comes back to the coach. Mr. Payton acknowledged as much in his post-game comments. That was "probably the worst job I've done as a coach since I've been here," he said.

JOESAM2002 · 12-05-2007, 08:44 PM

Boy, I sure hope Payton read that! That was a stupid play call. Sean needs to get a grip, before calling plays like that again.

Stupid,stupid,stupid.............

QBREES9 · 12-05-2007, 09:02 PM

you call that play in the first half when you're UP by 27. But not when the game in on the line.

hagan714 · 12-06-2007, 05:29 AM

Cute draft in 2006 worked out
Cute draft in 2007 has not
Cute moves with players in the pre season did not
Cute play calling will be a big factor in a disappointing season
I think cute in 2007 may go down as SP's anti Christ phrase in coaching.

WhoDat205 · 12-06-2007, 08:46 AM

Editorial deserves a penalty, Saints owner says- NOLA.com

Editorial deserves a penalty, Saints owner says
Wednesday, December 05, 2007
Re: "Cut the cutesy stuff," Our Opinions, Dec. 4.

I am writing to express my disappointment regarding Tuesday's editorial about Coach Sean Payton. Sean has done a wonderful job as our head coach and has been an exemplary leader in raising the collective spirits of this city through the play of our team and by participating in many civic and charitable events. If this article appeared in a football context, it would be penalized for at least a "late hit," "block in the back," and "unsportsmanlike conduct."

I am shocked that you would use your valued editorial space to lambaste our head coach based on one play. Do the math. Sean has coached our team for 30 games since we hired him in 2006. These are the same plays that have defined his success in 2006 and 2007 and the same plays that your newspaper has deemed genius. He has called more than 2,000 offensive plays, many of which your newspaper celebrates. He makes a decision in one game that our players are trained to execute and do not, but yet your newspaper vilifies him in the same editorial section reserved for the most corrupt of the corrupt who pollute our city.

We are proud of Sean Payton for what he stands for and what he does for our team and this city. I am disappointed your newspaper does not feel the same way.

Tom Benson

Owner

New Orleans Saints

Metairie

Dan the Man · 12-06-2007, 09:59 AM

Good for Tom Benson for standing behind his man. I really am glad to hear him standing up for him...but it was still a stupid play call.

bobcat4u2 · 12-06-2007, 12:04 PM

for once cheers to benson.payton is a good young COACH.give him time and support.keep changing and we'll never be winners.i just hope we start developing our young players better for next year and off-season moves are better.just keeping carney,or calling " MORTEN ANDERSON "would have us still in contention.a good corner &safety and we'd be leaders.payton is not that far from being a top coach.let's give him a break.he acknowledges his mistakes.better than most

JOESAM2002 · 12-06-2007, 01:58 PM

I still believe in Payton but that was a stupid call. I'm also happy that benson stood up for his coach. It looks good to the team and us as fans. The more good Benson ays the better it will be for this team knowing that their owner stands behind them.

andersen · 12-06-2007, 03:24 PM

It felt stupid walking away from the Dome Sunday night, but after I've had time to think about it, the 'call' has lessoned somewhat. It (the call) took 10 seconds, the game was really lost in the other 59:50.
I like the fact the Payton stood up and took the blame and Benson standing behing his boy.

MatthewT · 12-06-2007, 04:36 PM

Yeah, I am with you on the game really being lost in the other 59:50. After I had time to cool off, the Saints are actually very lucky that they did not get blown out. To let a QB like Luke McClown have his way was totally unacceptable. Not to mention that our offense could not really get it going either. Still, that play call was horrible. On the other hand had it worked, we would all be applauding Sean Payton for calling a gutsy play that "saved the season". Oh well... Maybe a couple more wins and regroup for next year.

12-05-2007, 08:35 PM	#1
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Cut the cutesy stuff EDITORIAL: Cut the cutesy stuff- NOLA.com Offensive lineman Jon Stinchcomb argued Sunday night on television that the offense should have made the play work. Well, that would've been lovely. Except that Jamaal Brown couldn't hold a block against a rookie 50 pounds lighter than he is. And Reggie Bush and Devery Henderson are known for bobbling the ball on a regular basis. So the blame comes back to the coach. Mr. Payton acknowledged as much in his post-game comments. That was "probably the worst job I've done as a coach since I've been here," he said.

12-05-2007, 08:44 PM	#2
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: Cut the cutesy stuff Boy, I sure hope Payton read that! That was a stupid play call. Sean needs to get a grip, before calling plays like that again. Stupid,stupid,stupid.............

12-05-2007, 09:02 PM	#3
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: Cut the cutesy stuff you call that play in the first half when you're UP by 27. But not when the game in on the line.

12-06-2007, 05:29 AM	#4
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Cut the cutesy stuff Cute draft in 2006 worked out Cute draft in 2007 has not Cute moves with players in the pre season did not Cute play calling will be a big factor in a disappointing season I think cute in 2007 may go down as SP's anti Christ phrase in coaching.
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12-06-2007, 08:46 AM	#5
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Cut the cutesy stuff Editorial deserves a penalty, Saints owner says- NOLA.com Editorial deserves a penalty, Saints owner says Wednesday, December 05, 2007 Re: "Cut the cutesy stuff," Our Opinions, Dec. 4. I am writing to express my disappointment regarding Tuesday's editorial about Coach Sean Payton. Sean has done a wonderful job as our head coach and has been an exemplary leader in raising the collective spirits of this city through the play of our team and by participating in many civic and charitable events. If this article appeared in a football context, it would be penalized for at least a "late hit," "block in the back," and "unsportsmanlike conduct." I am shocked that you would use your valued editorial space to lambaste our head coach based on one play. Do the math. Sean has coached our team for 30 games since we hired him in 2006. These are the same plays that have defined his success in 2006 and 2007 and the same plays that your newspaper has deemed genius. He has called more than 2,000 offensive plays, many of which your newspaper celebrates. He makes a decision in one game that our players are trained to execute and do not, but yet your newspaper vilifies him in the same editorial section reserved for the most corrupt of the corrupt who pollute our city. We are proud of Sean Payton for what he stands for and what he does for our team and this city. I am disappointed your newspaper does not feel the same way. Tom Benson Owner New Orleans Saints Metairie

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12-06-2007, 09:59 AM	#6
Dan the Man Registered Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: New Orleans Posts: 87	Re: Cut the cutesy stuff Good for Tom Benson for standing behind his man. I really am glad to hear him standing up for him...but it was still a stupid play call.

12-06-2007, 12:04 PM	#7
bobcat4u2 Registered Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 71	Re: Cut the cutesy stuff for once cheers to benson.payton is a good young COACH.give him time and support.keep changing and we'll never be winners.i just hope we start developing our young players better for next year and off-season moves are better.just keeping carney,or calling " MORTEN ANDERSON "would have us still in contention.a good corner &safety and we'd be leaders.payton is not that far from being a top coach.let's give him a break.he acknowledges his mistakes.better than most
bobcat4u2 Registered Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 71

12-06-2007, 01:58 PM	#8
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: Cut the cutesy stuff I still believe in Payton but that was a stupid call. I'm also happy that benson stood up for his coach. It looks good to the team and us as fans. The more good Benson ays the better it will be for this team knowing that their owner stands behind them.

12-06-2007, 03:24 PM	#9
andersen With an "E" Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Madisonville, LA Posts: 429	Re: Cut the cutesy stuff It felt stupid walking away from the Dome Sunday night, but after I've had time to think about it, the 'call' has lessoned somewhat. It (the call) took 10 seconds, the game was really lost in the other 59:50. I like the fact the Payton stood up and took the blame and Benson standing behing his boy.

12-06-2007, 04:36 PM	#10
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Cut the cutesy stuff Yeah, I am with you on the game really being lost in the other 59:50. After I had time to cool off, the Saints are actually very lucky that they did not get blown out. To let a QB like Luke McClown have his way was totally unacceptable. Not to mention that our offense could not really get it going either. Still, that play call was horrible. On the other hand had it worked, we would all be applauding Sean Payton for calling a gutsy play that "saved the season". Oh well... Maybe a couple more wins and regroup for next year.