Looking for a new head coach?

jcoll16 · 12-31-2007, 01:33 PM

12-31-2007 06:27 PM
abutler Re: Looking for a new head coach?

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CAN ANYONE GIVE ONE LOGICAL EXPLANATION FOR SHOWING UP FOR THE NFC CHAMPIONSHIP THE DAY BEFORE THE GAME IN CHICAGO? IS THAT A GREAT MIND AT WORK? WHAT THE ?>l:!#$%$!!!!!!!!!!
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I geuss you're bright football mind forgot that the reasons we lost the NFC Championship game (btw, remember the Saints were predicted to win no more than 6 games last year) were terrible o-line blocking, no run game, bad defense, and Drew's passes constantly being batted in the air.

WHAT FAN IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD WANT TO FIRE A HEAD COACH A YEAR REMOVED FROM LEADING HIS TEAM IN HIS ROOKIE YEAR TO THE NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME WHEN THAT TEAM WENT 3-13 THE YEAR BEFORE HE TOOK OVER!?

Show some common sense and patience, people. Please.

MatthewT · 12-30-2007, 11:59 PM

Way too early to talk about a new coach, but I do get what Frankee is saying. But, I don't think in this era teams can expect to always have winning seasons. The NFL is just too evenly matched these days. Still, with that said, Sean Payton needs to have a big season next year or he very well may be looking for another job.

abutler · 12-31-2007, 10:47 AM

I am telling you guys that the types of mistakes that Sean Payton made this year aren't the type of mistakes you can fix in the off season. He doesn't have "the feel". You can't teach or learn that. If you call timeouts in the 3rd quarter when the game is close you are second guessing your team's abilities and putting them at a disadvantage later in the game. Sean has done that consistently this year. I can never expect him to understand football the way I do for the one, most blatent miscalculation possible, at the biggest moment in Black & Gold History. HE SHOWED UP IN CHICAGO THE DAY BEFORE THE NFC CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What evidence do you people need? Sean Payton is an offensive coordinator! How many challenges has he won this year? How many challenges cost us momentum? Watch the games we lost. He cost us a lot more than he gained us. He needs to be supervised!

LongTimeFan · 12-31-2007, 11:01 AM

Last year Sean was coach of the year, everyone thought he was sent to N.O by God and now that he had a bad (only his second year) season some want him fired. (Doesn't make sense to me)
I just don't get it.

I guess the Bears fans want L. Smith fired too being he made it to the SB last year but didn't make the playoffs this season, I guess he needs to be fired also.
Other teams who might want their coach's fired, Denver, Carolina, Cincinnati, Houston, Minnesota, I could have missed a team but I'm sure the teams listed here will be firing their coaches. NOT

abutler · 12-31-2007, 11:01 AM

WHAT FOOTBALL COACH IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD SAY THAT THEY WANTED THE NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME TO BE TREATED JUST LIKE ANY OTHER GAME?

Is that a competitive attitude or was that his wife's advice?

I don't mean to take cheap shots at the Payton family. I think they are wonderful people and they have done a lot of work for the city and the team. I tell my own family when they are screwing up. We need Sean Payton as an offensive coordinator. Sean can't have the final say in how are timeouts or challenges are spent. He needs to have his play calling under veto especially late in the games. The bottom line is we need better decisions on the field during a game. A head coach at this level cannot make this many dumb mistakes all year long and get away with it. Especially under the guise of an excuse like, "I was trying to get a spark". With the talent that we have, that kind of excuse makes me sick....blahhhhh

abutler · 12-31-2007, 11:17 AM

What head coach has ever walked into a club and turned it around in the first year? I would say that maybe they can turn it around within one year, but you wouldn't see the results for 2-4 years. Sean Payton walked into NO with all the talent there. Why don't the players get the credit for getting deep in the playoffs last year? Why does the rookie head coach deserve it? So now that we know what our team is capable of we let Sean screw it up? That's b.s. Sean is an incredible offensive coordinator, not a head coach. We can all be mad about it or deny it. The truth always reveals itself. I'm sad for the organization because I believe the truth was revealed at the end of our playoff run and this entire season. WATCH THE LOSSES! The truth is always there, but we usually see what we want or hope. I hope Benson isn't as hopeful or blind as 99% of Saint fans. Maybe our optimism is what has been keeping us out of the Super Bowl for our entire lives!

papz · 12-31-2007, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by abutler

What head coach has ever walked into a club and turned it around in the first year? I would say that maybe they can turn it around within one year, but you wouldn't see the results for 2-4 years. Sean Payton walked into NO with all the talent there. Why don't the players get the credit for getting deep in the playoffs last year? Why does the rookie head coach deserve it? So now that we know what our team is capable of we let Sean screw it up? That's b.s. Sean is an incredible offensive coordinator, not a head coach. We can all be mad about it or deny it. The truth always reveals itself. I'm sad for the organization because I believe the truth was revealed at the end of our playoff run and this entire season. WATCH THE LOSSES! The truth is always there, but we usually see what we want or hope. I hope Benson isn't as hopeful or blind as 99% of Saint fans. Maybe our optimism is what has been keeping us out of the Super Bowl for our entire lives!

Wow Euphoria has nothing on you. You've officially made it to the bottom of the totem pole in my book.

WhoDat205 · 01-02-2008, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by abutler

What head coach has ever walked into a club and turned it around in the first year? I would say that maybe they can turn it around within one year, but you wouldn't see the results for 2-4 years. Sean Payton walked into NO with all the talent there. Why don't the players get the credit for getting deep in the playoffs last year? Why does the rookie head coach deserve it? So now that we know what our team is capable of we let Sean screw it up? That's b.s. Sean is an incredible offensive coordinator, not a head coach. We can all be mad about it or deny it. The truth always reveals itself. I'm sad for the organization because I believe the truth was revealed at the end of our playoff run and this entire season. WATCH THE LOSSES! The truth is always there, but we usually see what we want or hope. I hope Benson isn't as hopeful or blind as 99% of Saint fans. Maybe our optimism is what has been keeping us out of the Super Bowl for our entire lives!

Brees, Bush, Colston, Evans, Harper, Fuji, etc...

WhoDat205 · 01-02-2008, 03:38 PM

I'm sorry, but this is a terrible thread. You guys sound like a bunch of Alabama fans clamouring for the Bear. Fire a coach that has a losing record? That's almost half the coaches in the league. I want the Saints to win as much as the next guy, but some of you are acting like we piss superbowls in New Orleans.

Do you think Lombardies, Ladrys and Parcellses grow on trees? Sure coach has made some bone-head moves. He's terrible with TOs and the red flag, but it's not like he can't improve. He's 18-16 as the head coach of the Saints and joins Mora as the only other coach in Saints history with a winning record.

papz · 01-02-2008, 03:49 PM

He's 18-16 as the head coach of the Saints and joins Mora as the only other coach in Saints history with a winning record.

That's so sad that it made me laugh.

12-31-2007, 01:33 PM	#1
jcoll16 Registered Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: B. Rouge Posts: 39	Re: Looking for a new head coach? 12-31-2007 06:27 PM abutler Re: Looking for a new head coach? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CAN ANYONE GIVE ONE LOGICAL EXPLANATION FOR SHOWING UP FOR THE NFC CHAMPIONSHIP THE DAY BEFORE THE GAME IN CHICAGO? IS THAT A GREAT MIND AT WORK? WHAT THE ?>l:!#$%$!!!!!!!!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I geuss you're bright football mind forgot that the reasons we lost the NFC Championship game (btw, remember the Saints were predicted to win no more than 6 games last year) were terrible o-line blocking, no run game, bad defense, and Drew's passes constantly being batted in the air. WHAT FAN IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD WANT TO FIRE A HEAD COACH A YEAR REMOVED FROM LEADING HIS TEAM IN HIS ROOKIE YEAR TO THE NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME WHEN THAT TEAM WENT 3-13 THE YEAR BEFORE HE TOOK OVER!? Show some common sense and patience, people. Please.

12-30-2007, 11:59 PM	#2
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Looking for a new head coach? Way too early to talk about a new coach, but I do get what Frankee is saying. But, I don't think in this era teams can expect to always have winning seasons. The NFL is just too evenly matched these days. Still, with that said, Sean Payton needs to have a big season next year or he very well may be looking for another job.

12-31-2007, 10:47 AM	#3
abutler since 86 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Long Beach MS Posts: 23 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Looking for a new head coach? I am telling you guys that the types of mistakes that Sean Payton made this year aren't the type of mistakes you can fix in the off season. He doesn't have "the feel". You can't teach or learn that. If you call timeouts in the 3rd quarter when the game is close you are second guessing your team's abilities and putting them at a disadvantage later in the game. Sean has done that consistently this year. I can never expect him to understand football the way I do for the one, most blatent miscalculation possible, at the biggest moment in Black & Gold History. HE SHOWED UP IN CHICAGO THE DAY BEFORE THE NFC CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What evidence do you people need? Sean Payton is an offensive coordinator! How many challenges has he won this year? How many challenges cost us momentum? Watch the games we lost. He cost us a lot more than he gained us. He needs to be supervised!

12-31-2007, 11:01 AM	#4
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	Re: Looking for a new head coach? Last year Sean was coach of the year, everyone thought he was sent to N.O by God and now that he had a bad (only his second year) season some want him fired. (Doesn't make sense to me) I just don't get it. I guess the Bears fans want L. Smith fired too being he made it to the SB last year but didn't make the playoffs this season, I guess he needs to be fired also. Other teams who might want their coach's fired, Denver, Carolina, Cincinnati, Houston, Minnesota, I could have missed a team but I'm sure the teams listed here will be firing their coaches. NOT
	Rest In Peace JoeSam, thanks for everything my friend.

12-31-2007, 11:01 AM	#5
abutler since 86 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Long Beach MS Posts: 23 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Looking for a new head coach? WHAT FOOTBALL COACH IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD SAY THAT THEY WANTED THE NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME TO BE TREATED JUST LIKE ANY OTHER GAME? Is that a competitive attitude or was that his wife's advice? I don't mean to take cheap shots at the Payton family. I think they are wonderful people and they have done a lot of work for the city and the team. I tell my own family when they are screwing up. We need Sean Payton as an offensive coordinator. Sean can't have the final say in how are timeouts or challenges are spent. He needs to have his play calling under veto especially late in the games. The bottom line is we need better decisions on the field during a game. A head coach at this level cannot make this many dumb mistakes all year long and get away with it. Especially under the guise of an excuse like, "I was trying to get a spark". With the talent that we have, that kind of excuse makes me sick....blahhhhh

12-31-2007, 11:17 AM	#6
abutler since 86 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Long Beach MS Posts: 23 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Looking for a new head coach? What head coach has ever walked into a club and turned it around in the first year? I would say that maybe they can turn it around within one year, but you wouldn't see the results for 2-4 years. Sean Payton walked into NO with all the talent there. Why don't the players get the credit for getting deep in the playoffs last year? Why does the rookie head coach deserve it? So now that we know what our team is capable of we let Sean screw it up? That's b.s. Sean is an incredible offensive coordinator, not a head coach. We can all be mad about it or deny it. The truth always reveals itself. I'm sad for the organization because I believe the truth was revealed at the end of our playoff run and this entire season. WATCH THE LOSSES! The truth is always there, but we usually see what we want or hope. I hope Benson isn't as hopeful or blind as 99% of Saint fans. Maybe our optimism is what has been keeping us out of the Super Bowl for our entire lives!

12-31-2007, 12:48 PM	#7
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	Re: Looking for a new head coach? Originally Posted by abutler What head coach has ever walked into a club and turned it around in the first year? I would say that maybe they can turn it around within one year, but you wouldn't see the results for 2-4 years. Sean Payton walked into NO with all the talent there. Why don't the players get the credit for getting deep in the playoffs last year? Why does the rookie head coach deserve it? So now that we know what our team is capable of we let Sean screw it up? That's b.s. Sean is an incredible offensive coordinator, not a head coach. We can all be mad about it or deny it. The truth always reveals itself. I'm sad for the organization because I believe the truth was revealed at the end of our playoff run and this entire season. WATCH THE LOSSES! The truth is always there, but we usually see what we want or hope. I hope Benson isn't as hopeful or blind as 99% of Saint fans. Maybe our optimism is what has been keeping us out of the Super Bowl for our entire lives! Wow Euphoria has nothing on you. You've officially made it to the bottom of the totem pole in my book.

01-02-2008, 03:17 PM	#8
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Looking for a new head coach? Originally Posted by abutler What head coach has ever walked into a club and turned it around in the first year? I would say that maybe they can turn it around within one year, but you wouldn't see the results for 2-4 years. Sean Payton walked into NO with all the talent there. Why don't the players get the credit for getting deep in the playoffs last year? Why does the rookie head coach deserve it? So now that we know what our team is capable of we let Sean screw it up? That's b.s. Sean is an incredible offensive coordinator, not a head coach. We can all be mad about it or deny it. The truth always reveals itself. I'm sad for the organization because I believe the truth was revealed at the end of our playoff run and this entire season. WATCH THE LOSSES! The truth is always there, but we usually see what we want or hope. I hope Benson isn't as hopeful or blind as 99% of Saint fans. Maybe our optimism is what has been keeping us out of the Super Bowl for our entire lives! Brees, Bush, Colston, Evans, Harper, Fuji, etc...

01-02-2008, 03:38 PM	#9
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Looking for a new head coach? I'm sorry, but this is a terrible thread. You guys sound like a bunch of Alabama fans clamouring for the Bear. Fire a coach that has a losing record? That's almost half the coaches in the league. I want the Saints to win as much as the next guy, but some of you are acting like we piss superbowls in New Orleans. Do you think Lombardies, Ladrys and Parcellses grow on trees? Sure coach has made some bone-head moves. He's terrible with TOs and the red flag, but it's not like he can't improve. He's 18-16 as the head coach of the Saints and joins Mora as the only other coach in Saints history with a winning record.
	"defence's personal to allwats double team or watch is over, that one reason why the saints or not any good." - Vador101

01-02-2008, 03:49 PM	#10
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	Re: Looking for a new head coach? He's 18-16 as the head coach of the Saints and joins Mora as the only other coach in Saints history with a winning record. That's so sad that it made me laugh.