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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I hold my head coaches to a high standard... Make the team better and never post a losing record... Sean Payton has failed in both areas to me. Sure it might be a tough statement to make, but I offer ...

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Old 12-30-2007, 06:51 PM   #1
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Looking for a new head coach?

I hold my head coaches to a high standard...
Make the team better and
never post a losing record...

Sean Payton has failed in both areas to me.
Sure it might be a tough statement to make, but I offer this as my reasoning.
Vince Lombardi never posted a losing record as a HC and after losing his first championship game...
Rattled off 9 wins .
He stated, "we will never lose this game again" and didn't.

Now Lombardi is a legend, and hard to compare to.
But that is what I want from my team's head coach...
And Payton this season (7-9) failed...

Sorry guys,
We are now looking for a new head coach.

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Old 12-30-2007, 07:01 PM   #2
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Re: Looking for a new head coach?

Pulling the trigger kinda quick aren't you? How about waiting the traditional 3 years before calling for the coaches head?

I mean, lets face it. The guy got us to the NFC Championship game last year. That's got to count for a whole boat load of doubt.
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Old 12-30-2007, 08:11 PM   #3
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Re: Looking for a new head coach?

Sean Payton does not deserve the credit for the Saints success last year. He deserves the credit for coming up short. The team should have been there atleast 3 days before the championship to acclimate. It isn't a hard one to figure out. The fans and the team made last year memorable. Sean Payton cost us the championship and a chance at the Super Bowl.

I would ask anyone who backs Payton to review the games we lost this season. Look at his questionable timeouts and challenges along with some of the loopy play calls at important moments. They will see that he needs supervision. He's an offensive coordinator, not a head coach.

I like him as a person, but he's a book worm. A head coach has to have "the feel". You can't teach or learn that. You have it or you don't.
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Old 12-30-2007, 08:18 PM   #4
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Re: Looking for a new head coach?

the only current head coach's on Lombardi's level right now would be Belichick and Dungy, so lets fire the other 30 coaches?
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Old 12-30-2007, 09:20 PM   #5
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Re: Looking for a new head coach?

Are you kidding me, getting rid of Payton IMO would be crazy, give the guy better players and he'll win games, it just wasn't a good year for him..
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Old 12-31-2007, 06:45 PM   #6
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Re: Looking for a new head coach?

Originally Posted by FireVenturi View Post
the only current head coach's on Lombardi's level right now would be Belichick and Dungy, so lets fire the other 30 coaches?

Gee Wiz in this quick fix I need to have it now society, we need to take a step back and wait. Have some patience. Can we not build instead of knock everything down

I believe in Coach Payton. Wait till 2008 you'll see.
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Old 12-31-2007, 06:46 PM   #7
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Re: Looking for a new head coach?

Originally Posted by FireVenturi View Post
the only current head coach's on Lombardi's level right now would be Belichick and Dungy, so lets fire the other 30 coaches?

Gee Wiz in this quick fix I need to have it now society, we need to take a step back and wait. Have some patience. Can we not build instead of knock everything down.

Roman wasn't build in a day, either were the PATRIOTS.

I believe in Coach Payton. Wait till 2008 you'll see.
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Old 12-30-2007, 10:02 PM   #8
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Re: Looking for a new head coach?

Call me crazy or whatever. When you don't understand as a head coach that consistency as a team comes from playing fundamental football then you're lost, the team is lost, we are all lost.

You don't challenge a touchdown and change tempo on a possibility when you drive 80 yards and have the defense on it's heals. You don't risk the tempo and momentum the players have earned. You don't call timeout when its the 3rd quarter, it's a close game, and you don't like the way their defense looks. And you don't call a flea-flicker when you've got the advantage late in the game. YOU SHOW UP FOR A JANUARY GAME IN CHICAGO ATLEAST 3 DAYS BEFORE KICKOFF TO ACCLIMATE TO THE CONDITIONS. ESPECIALLY FOR THE NFC CHAMPIONSHIP!

Let's be realistic. He has not made the right decisions. Unless you like Jason David.
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Old 12-30-2007, 10:33 PM   #9
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I think this is the year to make or break Payton. He doesn't right the ship this coming season with a great off season. Then and only then I'd say can him. You have to let him learn from his mistakes. You don't fire Cowher.
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Old 12-31-2007, 12:52 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by Euphoria View Post
I think this is the year to make or break Payton. He doesn't right the ship this coming season with a great off season. Then and only then I'd say can him. You have to let him learn from his mistakes. You don't fire Cowher.
euph...i totally concur
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