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CheramieIII 01-02-2008 11:24 AM

1st, 1st Round Mock Draft.....
 
I will update frequently:

CheramieIII's 2008 NFL Mock Draft

Updated 1/2/08

Pick Team Position Player Name School Brief Description of the Pick
1 Miami OT Jake Long Michigan They need help protecting Beck more than they need defense.
2 St. Louis DT Glenn Dorsey LSU They need all the defensive help they can get.
3* Atlanta QB Matt Ryan Boston College You know they need a QB and Matt would be a good fit anywhere.
4* Oakland DT Sedrick Ellis USC You would think RB, but they already have a few.
5* Kansas City OT Ryan Clady Boise State Protection for the QB will do wonders.
6 NY Jets RB Darren McFadden Arkansas He's going to make them a lot better on offense immediately.
7 New England (from 49ers) ILB James Laurinaitis Ohio State Aging linebacking corps gets a big mean boost.
8 Baltimore QB Brian Brohm Louisville Nuff said!
9 Cincinnati WR DeSean Jackson California May lose both starters and with Jackson's 4.32 speed who cares.
10 Chicago (from New Orleans) QB Abdre Woodson Kentucky You knew there were going to get a QB right?
11 Buffalo WR Malcom Kelly Oklahoma Great speed at 4.47 for his size 6'4", 217 lbs.
12 Denver DE Chris Long Virginia Should make Moss play better on the other end.
13 Carolina DE Vernon Gholston Ohio State 6'4", 260 lbs and a 4.58 40 time, this is a must pick.
14 Houston (from New Orleans) RB Jonathan Stewart Orgeon Great pick up for Houston, especially with the defense improving.
15 Detroit CB Malcom Jenkins Ohio State Can you say, "mommy please stop the burning". Jenkins can!
16 Arizona DE Calais Campbell Miami Great pick for a team in need of a pass rush.
17 Minnesota QB Colt Brennan Hawaii Jackson is not the future but is definitely the past.
18 New Orleans (from Houston) CB Mike Jenkins South Florida Speed kills and in this case opposing wide receivers.
19 Philadelphia WR Limas Sweed Texas Too big to fall off the radar and that's exactly what McNabb needs.
20 Dallas (from Cleveland) S Kenny Phillips Miami Big, fast and can play cornerback too!
21 Tampa Bay** WR James Hardy Indiana Great hands and at 6'6" not many can cover him.
22 Washington** DE Derrick Harvey Florida Need some pass rush, NOT ANYMORE!
23 Seattle** OT Sam Baker USC Pick up some needed pass protection and run blocking.
24 Pittsburgh** OT Jeff Otah Pittsburgh 6'6", 340 lbs, can open any hole you want.
25 Tennessee** WR Early Doucet LSU They need a weapon and he's sort of like a missile, yeah he is!
26 NY Giants** CB Aqib Talib Kansas This move will elevate the defense to a whole new level.
27 San Diego** OLB Dan Connor Penn State Great addition and immediate impact player. Like they need more.
28 Jacksonville** TE Fred Davis USC Big Target with great hands.
29 Green Bay** RB Rashard Mendenhall Illinois Definite need and definite great pick.
30 San Francisco (from Colts)** WR Adarius Bowman Oklahoma State Big guy at 6'4", 215 lbs and a 4.48 40, not to shabby.
31 Dallas** RB Steve Slaton West Virginia Double might be gone and a Slaton/Barber backfield is scary.
32 No Pick (Patriots forfeit)
Selections 3, 4 and 5 will be decided by a coin flip.
Saints pick up Chicago's #3 with the 1st trade down.
Saints pick up Houston's #3 with the 2nd trade down.

papz 01-02-2008 11:32 AM

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Word is Rashard Mendenhall is reconsidering about leaving Illinois and could return for his senior season. Though, I don't know why he would considering he had a monster game against USC and a fantastic season. I think Brennan's draft stock took a little hit after Hawaii failed miserably against Georgia... though the line certainly didn't help his cause.

I wouldn't mind a trade down to acquire more picks. It's a pretty deep draft and we could still land a stud corner in the mid to lower teens. I wouldn't mind Jenkins at all.

CheramieIII 01-02-2008 11:54 AM

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Here's the rest of the Saints Draft, I will also be working on a 2nd and 3rd round for the rest of the league:

CheramieIII's 2008 NFL Mock Draft

Updated 1/2/08

1st Round

Pick Team Position Player Name School Brief Description of the Pick
1 Miami OT Jake Long Michigan They need help protecting Beck more than they need defense.
2 St. Louis DT Glenn Dorsey LSU They need all the defensive help they can get.
3* Atlanta QB Matt Ryan Boston College You know they need a QB and Matt would be a good fit anywhere.
4* Oakland DT Sedrick Ellis USC You would think RB, but they already have a few.
5* Kansas City OT Ryan Clady Boise State Protection for the QB will do wonders.
6 NY Jets RB Darren McFadden Arkansas He's going to make them a lot better on offense immediately.
7 New England (from 49ers) ILB James Laurinaitis Ohio State Aging linebacking corps gets a big mean boost.
8 Baltimore QB Brian Brohm Louisville Nuff said!
9 Cincinnati WR DeSean Jackson California May lose both starters and with Jackson's 4.32 speed who cares.
10 Chicago (from New Orleans) QB Abdre Woodson Kentucky You knew there were going to get a QB right?
11 Buffalo WR Malcom Kelly Oklahoma Great speed at 4.47 for his size 6'4", 217 lbs.
12 Denver DE Chris Long Virginia Should make Moss play better on the other end.
13 Carolina DE Vernon Gholston Ohio State 6'4", 260 lbs and a 4.58 40 time, this is a must pick.
14 Houston (from New Orleans) RB Jonathan Stewart Orgeon Great pick up for Houston, especially with the defense improving.
15 Detroit CB Malcom Jenkins Ohio State Can you say, "mommy please stop the burning". Jenkins can!
16 Arizona DE Calais Campbell Miami Great pick for a team in need of a pass rush.
17 Minnesota QB Colt Brennan Hawaii Jackson is not the future but is definitely the past.
18 New Orleans (from Houston) CB Mike Jenkins South Florida Speed kills and in this case opposing wide receivers.
19 Philadelphia WR Limas Sweed Texas Too big to fall off the radar and that's exactly what McNabb needs.
20 Dallas (from Cleveland) S Kenny Phillips Miami Big, fast and can play cornerback too!
21 Tampa Bay** WR James Hardy Indiana Great hands and at 6'6" not many can cover him.
22 Washington** DE Derrick Harvey Florida Need some pass rush, NOT ANYMORE!
23 Seattle** OT Sam Baker USC Pick up some needed pass protection and run blocking.
24 Pittsburgh** OT Jeff Otah Pittsburgh 6'6", 340 lbs, can open any hole you want.
25 Tennessee** WR Early Doucet LSU They need a weapon and he's sort of like a missile, yeah he is!
26 NY Giants** CB Aqib Talib Kansas This move will elevate the defense to a whole new level.
27 San Diego** OLB Dan Connor Penn State Great addition and immediate impact player. Like they need more.
28 Jacksonville** TE Fred Davis USC Big Target with great hands.
29 Green Bay** RB Rashard Mendenhall Illinois Definite need and definite great pick.
30 San Francisco (from Colts)** WR Adarius Bowman Oklahoma State Big guy at 6'4", 215 lbs and a 4.48 40, not to shabby.
31 Dallas** RB Steve Slaton West Virginia Double might be gone and a Slaton/Barber backfield is scary.
32 No Pick (Patriots forfeit)
Selections 3, 4 and 5 will be decided by a coin flip.
Saints pick up Chicago's #3 with the 1st trade down.
Saints pick up Houston's #3 with the 2nd trade down.

2nd Round
Dre Moore, DT, Maryland

3rd Round
Matt Forte, RB, Tulane
Beau Bell, ILB, UNLV
Darnell Terrell, CB, Missouri

4th Round
David Vobaro, OLB, Idaho

5th Round
Andy Studebaker, OLB, Wheaton

6th Round
Alexis Serna, Kicker, Oregon State

7th Round
Terrell Vinson, CB Purdue

SoulStar 01-02-2008 02:38 PM

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Im confused. why are the bears getting that draft pick from the saints in your mock?

CheramieIII 01-02-2008 02:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SoulStar (Post 151149)
Im confused. why are the bears getting that draft pick from the saints in your mock?

We trade down with them and then with Houston again.

ssmitty 01-02-2008 03:01 PM

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i'm all for trading down........in fact, i'd be more than happy to give all draft choices away for some young proven vets that can come in and start and produce immediately.... i don't care which side of the team they are on........from there, let's go to fa and get ready to kick some azz.......the draft just depresses me lately.......give me something i know will work.......smitty

SoulStar 01-02-2008 03:04 PM

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Thanks for clearing that up, why do you see the need to trade down though?
Im just curious, and I know that we can snap up a young CB with that Ten Pick, but he still might be there with the bears pick also. I just get the feeling that Jerry Jones is going to screw up this draft for alot of teams this year....the man has a serious man crush on McFadden from Ark.

CheramieIII 01-02-2008 03:09 PM

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I just think that there will be Jenkins or Phillips still on the board at #18 and if both of them are then we're going to have our choice and we pick up 2 additional 3rd rounders in the 2 trade downs.

FireVenturi 01-02-2008 05:17 PM

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not bad, i dont like Serna, any other kickrs out there?

CheramieIII 01-02-2008 05:52 PM

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Taylor Mehlhaff, Wisconsin, 5-10, 185 lbs, hit 5-of-6 from beyond 40 yards this year.

Art Carmody, Louisville, 5-9. 165 lbs, 21-of-25 field goals in 2006. Hadn't missed a kick from inside 40 yards his entire career until this season.

Along with Serna these three kickers are ranked 1, 2 and 3 in alot of the prospect rankings.

FireVenturi 01-03-2008 06:10 PM

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Watch Talib the corner from Kansas tonight, i like em!

hagan714 01-03-2008 07:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FireVenturi (Post 151270)
Watch Talib the corner from Kansas tonight, i like em!

I would trade down with Dallas in heartbeat and take him. Lets see how he does at the combine. I really think he will rise before the draft.

Talib (6-2, 205, 4.5) has established himself as one of the best cover corners in the country and in an age where the shutdown corner is a must-have, Talib is in an elite category - as potentially the best at his position in the nation. He's the guy that teams hate to throw to, but when they have to, the results usually swing in Talib's favor. Last season, he recorded six interceptions to lead the Big 12 and had 22 pass breakups. This season, he has four picks (including one return for a touchdown) and 13 passes defended. Like any corner, he gets beat from time to time, but that isn't often.
As with former star corner Charles Gordon, who Talib teamed up with as a red shirt freshman in 2005, Kansas has also used him on offense and he has eight catches for 182 yards and four touchdowns in 2007. But, Mark Mangino done a good job of limiting his time on the field on offense, so that they can get the most out of him in his primary position.
His 40 time, which has been timed around 4.5 and his great size could see him moved to a safety position in the pros. The thing about that 40 time, however, is a little misleading. According to an article in the Topeka Capital-Journal: when he caught a 49-yard touchdown pass in a game against Central Michigan, when the ball was released, he didn't have a step on the defense; but when he caught it, he had three.
Besides his great cover skills, Talib likes getting into the backfield from time to time (9.5 tackles for loss in his career) and isn't afraid to make a tackle (61 tackles this season, 157 in his career). If he adds on a few pounds of muscle, he could become a big-time hitter in the pros. That might lend more to a move to free safety, where he could be a bigger version of Brian Dawkins.

He may only be a junior, but if he enters the draft, he appears to be a lock for the first round and may be the first cornerback taken - which could put him anywhere from the top 15 to the latter part of the first round.


Another to look at is Justin King Penn St. 6-0, 186, 4.38.(?) He will be another riser at the combine.

ustin King is a top notch CB prospect. The 6'0", 186 lbs., junior from Penn St. has the tools to shut down NFL receivers. He went through a few shaky spots this season, but overall has done a great job in coverage. King finished this season as a First Team All Big Ten selection. He totaled 44 tackles and 2 INTs this season, despite the opposition throwing away from him all season. King also led the Big Ten this season with 17 passes defended. King has defended top flight college receivers all season, facing Dorien Bryant, James Hardy, Mario Manningham, Arrelious Benn, and Brian Robiskie, with good results. He shows good ball skills in coverage and has blazing speed. King will need to hit the weight room, so he can play press coverage when needed against NFL receivers. Pittsburgh Post Gazette columnist Ron Muselman reported King had 4.3 or better speed in the 40. The thing that makes King an exciting prospect is this is only his second year as a full time CB. Because of injuries, King was forced to play mostly at wide receiver during his freshman year. Corner is one of the toughest positions to play in football and his relative lack of experience shows how good he could be with NFL coaching. An added bonus with King is his experience at both receiver and as a return man at Penn St. Justin King is an excellent corner, with unlimited potential. He might decide not to declare and work on being the top corner in next year's class.

FireVenturi 01-03-2008 08:07 PM

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Talib......pick six baby, is it time to start the blackandgold nation for Talib petition?

FireVenturi 01-03-2008 08:16 PM

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who would you suggest?


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