Per Rotoworld/ Roy Williams

SaintFanInATLHELL · 01-14-2008, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Seeing how we were favorite coming into this season as legitimate Super Bowl contenders... that doesn't make any sense. Prior to the season we had as good as a chance of anyone to make it to the Superbowl.

But only if our defense improved. It didn't.

(about drops...) In bold.

Drops were certainly a problem. However the guy we picked to be that complementary #2 receiver wasn't on the field.

I see the receiver issue quite simply: we've already spent a #1 pick on a receiver. Give the guy a chance to be that #2.

Then you're just fooling yourself. Just because of offense was good, it doesn't mean it can't be better.

I'm not saying that. I'm saying that the offense is quite good enough and that spending resources to make it better isn't going to improve the overall outlook of the team.

Let me flip the question: How much better will our offense be if we get a defense that actually gets them both the ball and the time to do something with it. One of the reasons that the Patriots were putting up 40-burgers this season is that their defense got off the field and gave the offense the ball back.

The offense and defense need to protect one another. The offense is good enough to handle its end of the load. The defense however...

As for being ticked off for drafting offense high in the draft...

Which is understandable given how atrocious our defense is...

I don't disagree at all with what you're saying.

At least we agree on something.

Should isn't good enough... when the likes of a Roy Williams is on the market and could be had for probably a 2nd rounder, you jump on that.

Nope. You spend that pick on a defensive starter. Houston's Demico Ryans was a #2 pick a year ago. The guy is a stud a middle linebacker.

The offense blew its high draft pick wad last year on a receiver. Get that guy ready to play.

Note that I think that Meachum will make an impact in the league. While some questioned the fact that the Saints picked him, most folks agreed that the guy could be a standout wideout in the league. He has Brees to throw him the ball. All he has to do is stay healthy, get some separation and catch it.

It's going to make our offense that much better and allow our defense to be on the sidelines longer. I hope Meachum can be that guy opposite Colston... but we have no idea what he's capable of. Draft picks are a crap shoot... Roy Williams is not.

We're going to have to give the guy a chance to prove himself. Payton redshirted him this year because he was hurt and the offense was clicking without him. Presumably the offense will click with him too.

As for keeping the ball longer, that wasn't really the problem. Between the defense's inability to get off the field on third down and explosive plays, when they were on the field, often they only got off after a score. There's nothing that the offense can do about that except not to turn the ball over.

Pretty much agree with all of that except that last part. Getting a solid #2 WR is a big concern from my point of view... whether it's via free agency, trade, or draft pick... it is as big as a concern as every defensive position on this team. What would happen if Colston got injured?

Colston was injured during this season. Did the passing attack stop? Brees throws the ball to whichever receiver is out there.

Personally I didn't have a problem with Patton as the #2 receiver. He did the job the vast majority of the time.

If there's a vet that's cheap in free agency like Patton was, then that's fine. But spending a precious draft pick to get yet another receiver? I don't think so.

SFIAH

01-14-2008, 06:19 PM	#9
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Per Rotoworld/ Roy Williams Originally Posted by papz Seeing how we were favorite coming into this season as legitimate Super Bowl contenders... that doesn't make any sense. Prior to the season we had as good as a chance of anyone to make it to the Superbowl. But only if our defense improved. It didn't. (about drops...) In bold. Drops were certainly a problem. However the guy we picked to be that complementary #2 receiver wasn't on the field. I see the receiver issue quite simply: we've already spent a #1 pick on a receiver. Give the guy a chance to be that #2. Then you're just fooling yourself. Just because of offense was good, it doesn't mean it can't be better. I'm not saying that. I'm saying that the offense is quite good enough and that spending resources to make it better isn't going to improve the overall outlook of the team. Let me flip the question: How much better will our offense be if we get a defense that actually gets them both the ball and the time to do something with it. One of the reasons that the Patriots were putting up 40-burgers this season is that their defense got off the field and gave the offense the ball back. The offense and defense need to protect one another. The offense is good enough to handle its end of the load. The defense however... As for being ticked off for drafting offense high in the draft... Which is understandable given how atrocious our defense is... I don't disagree at all with what you're saying. At least we agree on something. Should isn't good enough... when the likes of a Roy Williams is on the market and could be had for probably a 2nd rounder, you jump on that. Nope. You spend that pick on a defensive starter. Houston's Demico Ryans was a #2 pick a year ago. The guy is a stud a middle linebacker. The offense blew its high draft pick wad last year on a receiver. Get that guy ready to play. Note that I think that Meachum will make an impact in the league. While some questioned the fact that the Saints picked him, most folks agreed that the guy could be a standout wideout in the league. He has Brees to throw him the ball. All he has to do is stay healthy, get some separation and catch it. It's going to make our offense that much better and allow our defense to be on the sidelines longer. I hope Meachum can be that guy opposite Colston... but we have no idea what he's capable of. Draft picks are a crap shoot... Roy Williams is not. We're going to have to give the guy a chance to prove himself. Payton redshirted him this year because he was hurt and the offense was clicking without him. Presumably the offense will click with him too. As for keeping the ball longer, that wasn't really the problem. Between the defense's inability to get off the field on third down and explosive plays, when they were on the field, often they only got off after a score. There's nothing that the offense can do about that except not to turn the ball over. Pretty much agree with all of that except that last part. Getting a solid #2 WR is a big concern from my point of view... whether it's via free agency, trade, or draft pick... it is as big as a concern as every defensive position on this team. What would happen if Colston got injured? Colston was injured during this season. Did the passing attack stop? Brees throws the ball to whichever receiver is out there. Personally I didn't have a problem with Patton as the #2 receiver. He did the job the vast majority of the time. If there's a vet that's cheap in free agency like Patton was, then that's fine. But spending a precious draft pick to get yet another receiver? I don't think so. SFIAH
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