Saints talked to Booty

cgctobe · 01-26-2008, 11:20 AM

Word is that saints coaches and scouts have interest in the QB from USC.....Makes sense.There is not much after Drew.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 01-26-2008, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by cgctobe

Word is that saints coaches and scouts have interest in the QB from USC.....Makes sense.There is not much after Drew.

I'm disappointed. That's time the coaching staff wasted instead of finding a way to make the defense better.

Drew Brees has taken every significant snap for this team the last 2 years. No backup in the world can do what he does. Everyone keeps crapping on Martin. But the last time he was in for significant minutes (for the Rams like 3 years ago) the guy went something like 5-1.

We already have a young QB on the roster. One that actually has a year of experience on the practice squad.

So again if the staff isn't evaluating DT, LB, CB, or S, then they are just wasting everyone's time.

Sigh.

SFIAH

saintsfan1976 · 01-26-2008, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I'm disappointed. That's time the coaching staff wasted instead of finding a way to make the defense better.

Drew Brees has taken every significant snap for this team the last 2 years. No backup in the world can do what he does. Everyone keeps crapping on Martin. But the last time he was in for significant minutes (for the Rams like 3 years ago) the guy went something like 5-1.

We already have a young QB on the roster. One that actually has a year of experience on the practice squad.

So again if the staff isn't evaluating DT, LB, CB, or S, then they are just wasting everyone's time.

Sigh.

SFIAH

Relax my brother in the ATL... There's not much to talk about until we sign some FA's. And until then they're just trying to make some headlines...

SaintFanInATLHELL · 01-26-2008, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Relax my brother in the ATL... There's not much to talk about until we sign some FA's. And until then they're just trying to make some headlines...

Even if there is nothing to talk about, we should be talking about defense. The staff should be working on defense. The fans should be thinking about defense.

Every day in this forum there's some thread about some need on offense. We need a tight end, or a #2 receiver, or a backup QB, or yet another RB. You'd think that the offense stank up the joint in 2007.

The stats do not bear that out. The offense from 2006 to 2007 scored 34 less points (2.1 pts less per game) 4 less TDs, same number of turnovers.

The defense? Sheesh. In 2006 they were already giving up 20 points a game. This year they gave up 64 points more (4 PPG). They had 6 less turnovers than in 2006. 54 plays of 20 yards or more? Are you kidding me! They gave up 32 TD passes! That's 2 per game.

The defense was awful! AWFUL!

So even the idlest of idle Saints fans minds should be working on fixing the defense. And only the defense.

The only thing the offense needs to work on is cutting down on the turnovers. And frankly there's only one guy that can do that: Drew Brees. Dude threw 18 picks. The offense needs to cut that in half. But he's the only one that can do it.

I've changed my signature for the offseason. I want everyone in Saints Land thinking about defense. A free agent period focused on defense. A draft on defense. An entire organization with a sole defensive goal in mind.

The offense we have right now can win the SuperBowl with no changes. None.

It's the defense that's the problem. Everyone should be focused on fixing it.

SFIAH

SapperSaint · 01-26-2008, 01:49 PM

AMEN SFIAH!!!!

Preach on Brother!

papz · 01-26-2008, 01:52 PM

Investing a late round pick in a quarterback to develop would be wise. The defense needs a ton of help, but you can't completely ignore of other side of the ball. What happens if our defense takes a step forward and our offense takes two steps back... we're screwed. Look at some of the premiere offensive teams... they continue to add weapons yearly to insure their offense stays where it is.

The front office needs to make sure we draft a bulk of defensive players in this draft... and continue to provide Brees weapons and protection to make sure he stays successful.

cgctobe · 01-26-2008, 01:57 PM

Great point Papz! Can you imagine if Drew went down with injury?

LordOfEntropy · 01-26-2008, 02:24 PM

When is Booty projected to be picked?

papz · 01-26-2008, 02:31 PM

As of right now I think he's projected to go in the third... I wouldn't pick him up though. I think he's a career backup with limited upside.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 01-26-2008, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Investing a late round pick in a quarterback to develop would be wise.

Didn't we already do this with Palko? Doesn't the guy already have a year in the Saints' system under his belt?

Why draft yet another low round QB to develop when we have one already?

The defense needs a ton of help, but you can't completely ignore of other side of the ball. What happens if our defense takes a step forward and our offense takes two steps back... we're screwed.

But you have to analyze why the offense would take two steps back. That answer is pretty simple: injuries, specifically to Brees. If that unfortunate event were to happen, how would a low drafted rookie help the situation? Like I said in my previous post, Martin is going into his 3rd year here in our system, and has over a dozen years in the league under his belt. The last time he had true backup duty for the Rams, he did fine. We already have Palko, who may be ready to step up.

The offense only dropped off a slight bit last year (500 yards, 4 TDs, 34 points, same number of turnovers). And that was in the face of injuries large and small in both the backs and receivers.

Look at some of the premiere offensive teams... they continue to add weapons yearly to insure their offense stays where it is.

We haven't even seend the offensive redshirt class of the 2007 Draft. The reload personnel is already on staff.

Resign our own free agents. That's the key.

The front office needs to make sure we draft a bulk of defensive players in this draft... and continue to provide Brees weapons and protection to make sure he stays successful.

We have 3 or 4 potential starters on the offensive line sitting on the bench (Strief, Allenman, Goodwin, Bushrod). Same with the #2 receiver. The team carried 5 TE last year. Our #4 RB torched the Bears for over 200 total yards.

On offense we have weapons, protection, and backups. Look at how well the offense did with little substantive changes from 2006.

Honestly, how many new offensive starters do we need? On the defense most would say that at most we have 5 starters (Smith, Grant, Thomas, Fujita, Harper)

Defense needs 6 starters and decent backups. Offense needs none. I wonder where the focus should be.

I wouldn't even bother with churn on the offensive side of the ball. Even if the offense dropped to the middle of the pack in terms of scoring (unlikely) with a top 10 scoring defense, the team would still go far into the playoffs.

Defense wins championships. Offense entertains fans.

Which do you want: entertainment or a championship?

SFIAH

01-26-2008, 11:20 AM	#1
cgctobe 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 114	Saints talked to Booty Word is that saints coaches and scouts have interest in the QB from USC.....Makes sense.There is not much after Drew.
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01-26-2008, 12:23 PM	#2
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Saints talked to Booty Originally Posted by cgctobe Word is that saints coaches and scouts have interest in the QB from USC.....Makes sense.There is not much after Drew. I'm disappointed. That's time the coaching staff wasted instead of finding a way to make the defense better. Drew Brees has taken every significant snap for this team the last 2 years. No backup in the world can do what he does. Everyone keeps crapping on Martin. But the last time he was in for significant minutes (for the Rams like 3 years ago) the guy went something like 5-1. We already have a young QB on the roster. One that actually has a year of experience on the practice squad. So again if the staff isn't evaluating DT, LB, CB, or S, then they are just wasting everyone's time. Sigh. SFIAH
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01-26-2008, 12:31 PM	#3
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,814 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints talked to Booty Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I'm disappointed. That's time the coaching staff wasted instead of finding a way to make the defense better. Drew Brees has taken every significant snap for this team the last 2 years. No backup in the world can do what he does. Everyone keeps crapping on Martin. But the last time he was in for significant minutes (for the Rams like 3 years ago) the guy went something like 5-1. We already have a young QB on the roster. One that actually has a year of experience on the practice squad. So again if the staff isn't evaluating DT, LB, CB, or S, then they are just wasting everyone's time. Sigh. SFIAH Relax my brother in the ATL... There's not much to talk about until we sign some FA's. And until then they're just trying to make some headlines...

01-26-2008, 01:04 PM	#4
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Saints talked to Booty Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Relax my brother in the ATL... There's not much to talk about until we sign some FA's. And until then they're just trying to make some headlines... Even if there is nothing to talk about, we should be talking about defense. The staff should be working on defense. The fans should be thinking about defense. Every day in this forum there's some thread about some need on offense. We need a tight end, or a #2 receiver, or a backup QB, or yet another RB. You'd think that the offense stank up the joint in 2007. The stats do not bear that out. The offense from 2006 to 2007 scored 34 less points (2.1 pts less per game) 4 less TDs, same number of turnovers. The defense? Sheesh. In 2006 they were already giving up 20 points a game. This year they gave up 64 points more (4 PPG). They had 6 less turnovers than in 2006. 54 plays of 20 yards or more? Are you kidding me! They gave up 32 TD passes! That's 2 per game. The defense was awful! AWFUL! So even the idlest of idle Saints fans minds should be working on fixing the defense. And only the defense. The only thing the offense needs to work on is cutting down on the turnovers. And frankly there's only one guy that can do that: Drew Brees. Dude threw 18 picks. The offense needs to cut that in half. But he's the only one that can do it. I've changed my signature for the offseason. I want everyone in Saints Land thinking about defense. A free agent period focused on defense. A draft on defense. An entire organization with a sole defensive goal in mind. The offense we have right now can win the SuperBowl with no changes. None. It's the defense that's the problem. Everyone should be focused on fixing it. SFIAH
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01-26-2008, 01:49 PM	#5
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01-26-2008, 01:52 PM	#6
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01-26-2008, 01:57 PM	#7
cgctobe 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 114	Re: Saints talked to Booty Great point Papz! Can you imagine if Drew went down with injury?
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01-26-2008, 02:24 PM	#8
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Re: Saints talked to Booty When is Booty projected to be picked?

01-26-2008, 02:31 PM	#9
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,739	Re: Saints talked to Booty As of right now I think he's projected to go in the third... I wouldn't pick him up though. I think he's a career backup with limited upside.

01-26-2008, 02:36 PM	#10
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Saints talked to Booty Originally Posted by papz Investing a late round pick in a quarterback to develop would be wise. Didn't we already do this with Palko? Doesn't the guy already have a year in the Saints' system under his belt? Why draft yet another low round QB to develop when we have one already? The defense needs a ton of help, but you can't completely ignore of other side of the ball. What happens if our defense takes a step forward and our offense takes two steps back... we're screwed. But you have to analyze why the offense would take two steps back. That answer is pretty simple: injuries, specifically to Brees. If that unfortunate event were to happen, how would a low drafted rookie help the situation? Like I said in my previous post, Martin is going into his 3rd year here in our system, and has over a dozen years in the league under his belt. The last time he had true backup duty for the Rams, he did fine. We already have Palko, who may be ready to step up. The offense only dropped off a slight bit last year (500 yards, 4 TDs, 34 points, same number of turnovers). And that was in the face of injuries large and small in both the backs and receivers. Look at some of the premiere offensive teams... they continue to add weapons yearly to insure their offense stays where it is. We haven't even seend the offensive redshirt class of the 2007 Draft. The reload personnel is already on staff. Resign our own free agents. That's the key. The front office needs to make sure we draft a bulk of defensive players in this draft... and continue to provide Brees weapons and protection to make sure he stays successful. We have 3 or 4 potential starters on the offensive line sitting on the bench (Strief, Allenman, Goodwin, Bushrod). Same with the #2 receiver. The team carried 5 TE last year. Our #4 RB torched the Bears for over 200 total yards. On offense we have weapons, protection, and backups. Look at how well the offense did with little substantive changes from 2006. Honestly, how many new offensive starters do we need? On the defense most would say that at most we have 5 starters (Smith, Grant, Thomas, Fujita, Harper) Defense needs 6 starters and decent backups. Offense needs none. I wonder where the focus should be. I wouldn't even bother with churn on the offensive side of the ball. Even if the offense dropped to the middle of the pack in terms of scoring (unlikely) with a top 10 scoring defense, the team would still go far into the playoffs. Defense wins championships. Offense entertains fans. Which do you want: entertainment or a championship? SFIAH
	Super Bowl Championships: New Orleans Saints:1, Carolina:0, Atlanta Chokers: STILL ZERO Only Atlanta choked in an unchokable situation... Life is definitely good.