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I will not tolerate it, even if it is the Falcons that are getting screwed. And that says a LOT, because everyone knows I sincerely detest those dirty buzzards. No Smitty, to make it worse, if I saw it happening to the Saints, I'd completely lose what little is left of my unstable mind.

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I say look at all the teams and everyone caught cheating has to forfeit every win period! A cheater is a cheater and I hope this report helps others to surface within the Patriots organization, as well as the entire nfl.

This report further taints anything that Bellicheat has done and everyone on the team. 19-0? YEAH, when you cheat.

The reason they are so much better than everyone else is because they have cheated for years and this season is the culmination of years of cheating.

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Word Cher. I don't think they can get away with it now, though. So if the Giants beat them tonight, then I think we've pretty much got proof they've had help to achieve all their laurels the last few seasons.

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and I was just reading a report on ESPN that said they video taped the entire walk through for the Rams before the 2002 Superbowl.

If half of the stuff is true their not 19-0 in my book that's for sure.

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Well... we now have the results.... and I think I stand by my post above.

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the only thing that will come from all of this is RADIO communication for the defense, just like the offense. Which by the way Bill has been pushing for three years now.
other than that who cares. As the other coaches say "they all do it"
Why do you think they have closed practices? They would do the same thing. It has always been apart of sports. Looking for the edge. No matter if it is a lean from an OLman to tip you of which direction the play was going or to taping. Why do you think teams sign players from other teams. Besides play, it is to pick their minds about the teams they just left. Thats a form of cheating too.
Just like digging through a garbage can. That I thought was funny. The Tuna,s butt in the air dumpster diving.

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The only question Hagan is - where do you draw the line? You can't allow everything. Shall fans just shoot opposing players when they come out onto the field? I mean, that would give a competitive advantage...

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LOL ethics.
Look I am not for it one bit. I am old fashion and hate cheaters. But I also know that is a fact and always will go on. As long as money is involved there is no reason to talk ethics. Today society rewards those who back stab and advance on un ethical partices. It is usually referred to as doing anything to get the job done.
Till the day when a mans hands handshake and his word is a measurement of his worth in this world, whats the point. Those days are long gone. So why get bent out of shape when the world has excepted the fact that most people can not be trusted to honest. Whats the point?
That is why I am not really emtional about this. I have :*****: for too many years already about this topic.

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I see your point, and it's a valid one. Regardless, I feel the Patriots uncanny performances over the last few years (to some extent) were due to their "slightly illegal" help from the video department. I think the game last night stands as evidence of that.

The most prolific offense in history... could only score 14 points... when there were no video tapes to help out.

I love it. The Dolphins record is secure. It would've been a travesty had the Cheatriots pulled it off.