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Cancer Beater 02-09-2008 07:25 PM

Deuce-----what is he worth?
 
If Deuce is on our roster March 1st, he'll be paid a 1 million dollar roster bonus.

Maybe, he'll be traded.

My question to you very astute fellow fans is: What could we realistically get for Deuce in a trade???

A 3RD round pick?:D

A 2nd round pick?:-D

Is Jerry Jones dumb enough to give us a 1st for Deuce?:confused:

QBREES9 02-09-2008 09:37 PM

Re: Deuce-----what is he worth?
 
if jerry jones is that dumb please give us Marion Barber

SoulStar 02-10-2008 05:48 AM

Re: Deuce-----what is he worth?
 
He wont be traded, and if he is it wont be for anything mor than a 5 round pick, and he will have to rework his contract before that happens. He has had two ACL problems now, and has a huge contract......I have a man crush on him, but I think his days as a top dollar RB in the NFL are over!

I hope he he saved that money given to him up front.

hagan714 02-10-2008 06:34 AM

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He is worth nothing right now. Till he gets on the field and changes that, there is no one going to take him on.

ssmitty 02-10-2008 01:47 PM

Re: Deuce-----what is he worth?
 
i think if duece can come back healthy, he may be willing to redo his contract and retire a saint.......i think if he can come back healthy, he's still the best rb we have, bar none................smitty

QBREES9 02-10-2008 03:50 PM

Re: Deuce-----what is he worth?
 
i guess will see in March if they give him his roster bonus. I think that what it is.

Cancer Beater 02-10-2008 09:07 PM

Re: Deuce-----what is he worth?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ssmitty (Post 153723)
i think if duece can come back healthy, he may be willing to redo his contract and retire a saint.......i think if he can come back healthy, he's still the best rb we have, bar none................smitty

Thomas ran like Deuce used to vs a better than everage Chicago defense.
Go back and look at Deuce in the 1st two games this season, dude was running like he was scared of contact.

pakowitz 02-11-2008 01:16 AM

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im gonna go in a different direction and say that his worth to this team is greater with him on it and not somewhere else.. our season went downhill the very play that he was taken off the field.. without deuce our rushin offense wasnt very good... even with reggie.. partly b/c he was hurt.. but mostly b/c we didnt have anyone to pound the ball... hopefully he can make a full recovery b/c without deuce.. i dont see our runnin game picking up till reggie figures out how to run in the NFL

bobcat4u2 02-11-2008 09:20 AM

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hate to say it but i can't beleive he can reach his old form.reggie is the future,but only if we upgrade the line play for more " POWER " blocking to open the inside holes.we either do that or get bruiser banging back

TheDeuce 02-11-2008 11:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ssmitty (Post 153723)
i think if duece can come back healthy, he may be willing to redo his contract and retire a saint.......i think if he can come back healthy, he's still the best rb we have, bar none................smitty

I agree ssmitty, he's the best running back on the team when he's healthy. He's a proven back who can grind it out, but can also bust the big one. I would love to see him retire a Saint, but I'm just not sure if him re-working his contract is even a possibility.

Tobias-Reiper 02-11-2008 12:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pakowitz (Post 153744)
im gonna go in a different direction and say that his worth to this team is greater with him on it and not somewhere else.. our season went downhill the very play that he was taken off the field.. without deuce our rushin offense wasnt very good... even with reggie.. partly b/c he was hurt.. but mostly b/c we didnt have anyone to pound the ball... hopefully he can make a full recovery b/c without deuce.. i dont see our runnin game picking up till reggie figures out how to run in the NFL

They did have someone that could pound the ball: Stecker (as we found out the last 3 games) and Karney (who for some strange reason is rarely given the ball).

Budsdrinker 02-11-2008 07:37 PM

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I think Deuce will do whatever is necessary to retire as a Saint. I believe he still has a few years left in the tank.

Papa Voodoo 02-11-2008 07:49 PM

Re: Deuce-----what is he worth?
 
Stephen Davis did great with a serious knee injury. Deuce is more of a swerve back than a hard cutter so my bet is he will be fine. His injury probably kept him on the team. Deuce can still run.

MatthewT 02-11-2008 08:23 PM

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The Saints could be in a bad spot. I know darn well they do not want to give Deuce that roster bonus on March 1st, but at the same time it could be a potential public relations nightmare if they release him. Hopefully, everyone can save face. Deuce by reworking his contract, and the Saints adding the money back as very easy to obtain incentives.

dberce1 02-11-2008 08:47 PM

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"Deuce-----what is he worth?"

He's worth every Saints' fans respect and admiration.

SapperSaint 02-12-2008 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dberce1 (Post 153797)
"Deuce-----what is he worth?"

He's worth every Saints' fans respect and admiration.

Very, very well put dberce1.

I woun't blame the oline for Reggie not having holes to run through. They are there, Reggie just won't run through them.

I don't mean to bash Reggie, but this is his year to prove that he can be THE runningback for this team. So far he has shown me he CAN NOT. Stecker, and PT had no problems running between the tackles, so who has the problem? Reggie or the Oline?

Oh yeah, GIVE KARNEY THE DARN BALL ONCE IN A WHILE!!!

SaintPauly 02-12-2008 09:43 PM

Re: Deuce-----what is he worth?
 
I will definately throw my vote towards him staying a Saint. Duece has been the backbone of this offense for many years, and I think he will come back good as new. Edgerrin James had both ACL's torn, and he is still a factor. I will even say that I think Duece is a better RB than James, so give him the mill,and suit him up for 08!

ScottF 02-12-2008 10:14 PM

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I agree that he should stay a Saint and collect the mil. No one would give up anyone for him right now, so he is ours by default.

A great post talked about re-working his deal, which could help Deuce also. If he gets cut, I don't think we'll see a lot of teams throwing 5 mill a year at a 29 year old banged up RB

Hopefully we get this one right, Put me doe for 1100 yards next year, in the B & G

FireVenturi 02-13-2008 07:07 AM

Re: Deuce-----what is he worth?
 
give him the bonus, rework his deal, and cut down on his carries.

rjakapeanut 02-13-2008 11:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SapperSaint (Post 153814)
Very, very well put dberce1.

I woun't blame the oline for Reggie not having holes to run through. They are there, Reggie just won't run through them.

I don't mean to bash Reggie, but this is his year to prove that he can be THE runningback for this team. So far he has shown me he CAN NOT. Stecker, and PT had no problems running between the tackles, so who has the problem? Reggie or the Oline?

Oh yeah, GIVE KARNEY THE DARN BALL ONCE IN A WHILE!!!

nah, don't put it all on Reggie liek that. this year AND next year are his years to show that he can be Brian Westbrook.

Tobias-Reiper 02-13-2008 03:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 153834)
Edgerrin James had both ACL's torn, and he is still a factor.

No, he is not.
Quote:

I will even say that I think Duece is a better RB than James
Yes, he is.

TheDeuce 02-13-2008 07:31 PM

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I might be alone on this board, but I am sick to death of the Reggie bashing. He's not being used right, in my opinion, and that's a crime because he is so special with the ball in his hands. Last year was ridiculous how poorly Payton used him. Look at last year compared to the end of 2006 when Payton was lining him up in the backfield and then out in the slot and creating mismatches. Last season they lined him up in the backfield and threw a screen or a swing pass, or ran it off the tackle 75% of the time. If they want him to be effective, they need to work the offense around him because he can change the game.

rjakapeanut 02-13-2008 07:53 PM

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yeah people need to stop bashing Reggie he'll be a pro bowler for many years in a row starting in the 2008 or 2009 season, lol.

papz 02-13-2008 08:09 PM

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I still believe Reggie is the future running back of this franchise. I've been backing him all season long as some may have noticed.

hagan714 02-14-2008 04:26 AM

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People like to play the blame game. This is a unit problem, not a player problem. We do not have an OL built for the run and with defense keying on Bush he did not stand a chance really. Can he do thing differently? yes. But it is a unit problem

SapperSaint 02-14-2008 07:36 AM

Re: Deuce-----what is he worth?
 
I guess I "P.P.ed" is everybody's fruit loops when I said something bad about Reggie.

Sorry guys, but I look at it this way.

If you buy a brand new, top of the line Ferrari; and it has engine trouble for the first two years how long are you going to be proud of it?

Sure, you have a Ferrari....but it only goes 55MPH.

When Deuce went down, Payton used Reggie just what he was drafted for.......OUR RUNNINGBACK. How was that misusing him? I won't say I'm bashing him, just very disappointed. If he needs to be a WR the move him to #2 WR. Which by the way is not what he was drafted for. Yes, I will agree, he needs to be in open field to work his magic. And yes, I know he can work his magic in the open field. But doesn't that show that he has a very small limitation window?

Just make sure you are wanting him on this team because of what can do/has done in the NFL and not from past glory as an NCAA player.

rjakapeanut 02-14-2008 12:32 PM

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bottom line is Reggie Bush is a Brian Westbrook/Tiki Barber type player and has similar numbers for his first couple seasons. I know that he was drafted extremely high but thats how it works with the NFL Draft. if your actual draft position had as much to do with your overall skill/potential as an NFL prospect as it should then we wouldn't have had any shot at nabbing Colston in the 7th round, get me?

yeah. he's not a 2nd overall impact type player yet, but he'll end up being worth it.

Cancer Beater 02-14-2008 01:04 PM

Re: Deuce-----what is he worth?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rjakapeanut (Post 153880)
bottom line is Reggie Bush is a Brian Westbrook/Tiki Barber type player and has similar numbers for his first couple seasons. I know that he was drafted extremely high but thats how it works with the NFL Draft. if your actual draft position had as much to do with your overall skill/potential as an NFL prospect as it should then we wouldn't have had any shot at nabbing Colston in the 7th round, get me?

yeah. he's not a 2nd overall impact type player yet, but he'll end up being worth it.

If Bush wasn't a threat, defenses wouldn't keep 3 dudes watching him.
Reggie will do great things for this team.


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