Glenn Dorsey
 

We have all seen the mock drafts, and we can pretty much assume that Glenn Dorsey is going to get drafted very high. Lately, some of the mocks have this guy maybe slipping to the 5th spot. My question is when the draft starts, and if Dorsey starts to slide a little, should the Saints try to trade up and grab him? And at what point would you think the Saints should try this at, like if he falls past the 3rd spot, the 4th, or whatever, and what do you think it would cost in trade terms? Very interesting thought. He seems like a perfect fit for the Saints d-line, and appears to be ready to start on opening day.

Re: Glenn Dorsey
 

The question is who is willing to trade all the way to ten? Oakland is my first guess. To many high picks in recent years. Then I think the only way Glenn is at oakland is because they win the coin toss today. Even then they will probably take Mcfadden because the Rams will take Glenn if miami passes. Just to many good OT in this draft. I think Oakland will then trade a RB from the team after they pick. Just too many top ten picks to make it work. So unles you want a Dica type of draft just pass on the idea.

Re: Glenn Dorsey
 

If Dorsey falls that far, that probably means Ellis has done the same. I dont see the point in targeting Dorsey specifically. If both are falling, just wait it out until one is gone. even then I dont like the idea of trading and giving up picks for one guy. Itll probably cost us our second to move up to 4 or 5 and grab Dorsey. Personally, Id rather have something like Rivers and Lofton over just Dorsey or just Ellis.

The wildcard in this spot is Baltimore at #8, if one of the DTs are available and theyre taking a QB, I could see them working something with us to hurt cincy at #9.

Re: Glenn Dorsey
 

A DT like Dorsey could make an immediate impact and HELP our LB's and secondary... I'm not saying make a crazy move, but don't pass on Dorsey if he's there.

Re: Glenn Dorsey
 

Sure, if Dorsey's there at 10 (haha) then we grab him. No argument (like that will ever happen).

But with regards to trading up.... no way.

I'm all for trading DOWN in this draft, not up. As Missile said - get a DT in FA, and draft a young one next year. But right now, the first day of the draft should focus on LB's and secondary.

Re: Glenn Dorsey
 

As most of you know I am a super LSU fan and love them as much as I love the Saints, I just have a feeling Dorsey is going to have alot of injury problems in his NFL career. May the Tiger gods not strike me down for this.....but I say (with Purple and Gold tears), pass on Dorsey.

Re: Glenn Dorsey
 

Due to a death in the family, it appears that Dorsey isn't going to make it to the combine so I heard. It could hurt his draft stock a little causing both he and Ellis to fall a bit. So, we might have a realistic shot at one or the other.

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I am not an advocate of trading up, either. This team needs way too much personnel to be giving it excessive draft picks for one player. I am a die-hard LSU fan, and my heart wants to see Dorsey with the Saints. However, I would not be willing to sell the farm for him.

Re: Glenn Dorsey
 

...I didn't want to be the first to say it.

Re: Glenn Dorsey
 

DT should be a main foucus of this team! We got no pressure on the QB! We need PRESSURE, PRESSURE, PRESSURE. The front 7 is what we all should care about. EXAMPLE: GIANTS did to the Pats.

Now I don't think we should trade up at all, I am all for trading back to grap more pics (more oppitunites to find gems). BUT!!! if Dorsey falls to 5 i'd start making calls and see what the price will be. Create some double teams on our line and it'll help create pressure. Not only that, you wanna put more butts in seats - draft Dorsey.

Re: Glenn Dorsey
 

You can bet your bottom dollar that the Patriots are desperately going to be shopping that 7th spot. If they are looking to trade back and Dorsey or Ellis is there, it's going to be tough to pass up, but who knows at this point.

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The market isn't exactly overflowing with free agent DTs with much talent, though, and this draft isn't loaded with d-line talent. I still say if we can jump over Cincy to Baltimore at the 8 spot for the cost of a fourth (which is right according to the trading chart) and get Ellis, then we should go for it. He's going to be too good to let slip by.

Re: Glenn Dorsey
 

LB's pressure the quarterback too. So do safeties. So do CB's....


There's no argument we need more pressure. But I think the play of our LB and secondary squads has been worse than the play of our D Line. And that itself can be one of the prime reasons we get so little pressure.

The Giants certainly put excellent pressure on Tom Brady. But it wasn't just the D Line causing it...

Re: Glenn Dorsey
 

You get to the QB with your front 7 it will by default take pressure off the secondary. If a QB has less than 3 seconds with the ball he doesn't have time to throw it. I think if you go back and look at the Super Bowl you'll find more times than not it was the front 7 that got the pressure and sacks more than the DB's. Front 7 does mean LB's from all my experiance with the game.

I like Dorsey because he is going to cause some mis matches and demand some double teams which will free up another player to get to the QB.

Re: Glenn Dorsey
 

You're right, you did say front 7 (not front 4). My bad. But the focus of this article is about Dorsey, and people are saying trade up to get him. So I was just pointing out that it's not just the front 4 that's responsible for pressure. I feel that sometimes people forget that, i.e focus solely on tackles, and forget about LB's.

Really, our front 4 isn't that bad. Certainly not good, but now awful. Our LB's, on the other hand, are just downright awful for the most part (IMO). Worse than the tackles, and hence more of a priority.

Re: Glenn Dorsey
 

New Orleans 2007 ranks:

Sacks - 19th
Total yds - 26th
Passing - 30th
Rushing - 13th (deceiving)
INT's - 28th

Re: Glenn Dorsey
 

Here is the thing about the draft and this draft in particular. First of all, no one wants to move into the top 10...most teams want out. It is not a top heavy draft but it is one of those drafts where the you can get great deals on guys in rounds 2-5.

As for our needs, in order of importance, we need CB, LB, DT. There isnt a rookie in this class that could come in and be very good from day 1 at CB, but you can find that with a LB or DT. If the Saints can sign Florence, then i would have no problem with them moving up a few spots to get Dorsey or Ellis while giving up a 3rd or a 4th. I would give up a conditional pick in next years draft to the Jets for Vilma. Based on how much he plays, it could be as high as a 2nd or as low as a 5th. Then the Saints could come out of the draft with defensive additions like this:

DT-Dorsey or Ellis (1st rd)
LB Vilma (trade for next years pick)

CB Florence (FA)
CB (Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie or whichever other CB falls till the early 2nd round)

Thats 4 young, athletic, playmakers to bring a jolt to our defense. That would leave us 4 picks on day 2 to address needs at safety, tight end, WR, and QB.

Re: Glenn Dorsey
 

You are right our front 4 isn't that bad but they aren't that good either. You need to get some pass rushers, bulldozers, instead of tubs of lard who sit there and wait for the runner to come near them to make a tackle. RUSH RUSH RUSH. Build a dominating front 7 and you'll be in more games than not. It all start up front creating mismatches and double teams.