Charles Grant

WhoDat205 · 02-26-2008, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

Does he have the weight and strength to be a DT?

He's at 290 right now. He plays DT in some situational settings. I don't think strength is an issue either.

Originally Posted by papz

I like it when Grant moves inside on third downs. But as a full time DT, I don't like him there. He'd have to gain more weight decreasing his effectiveness. When in shape and motivated, we know he's a very good DE. Right now he's a prototypical 3-4 DE... he needs to shed a good 10 pounds.

I've never thought he was worthy of the money he gets...at least from a statistical standpoint. He had 1 ten sack season and everything else was 6, 2.5, 3, etc...

Of course, we could change to a 3-4...

SapperSaint · 02-26-2008, 01:39 PM

What is Coach O's prefered scheme?

WhoDat205 · 02-26-2008, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

What is Coach O's prefered scheme?

I was kidding. We're stuck in a 4-3. We'd have to trade Smith for a couple of LBs, draft Quinten Groves*, find a NT. It would be a mess.

*He's going to be an awesome 3-4 OLB, IMO...from the Demarcus Ware mold.

papz · 02-26-2008, 01:44 PM

That Groves will be... a player who I'd LOVE to have here.

Saint_Slumber · 02-26-2008, 11:38 PM

When you say weight do you mean blood?

hagan714 · 02-27-2008, 04:04 AM

Maybe trade bait soon?

Cancer Beater · 02-27-2008, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Maybe trade bait soon?

The cap hit would be around 15million if we traded Grant right now.

Budsdrinker · 02-27-2008, 11:32 AM

The Giants used Tuck as a DT and his size is close to Grant. Tuck is 6'5" 274 compared to Grant at 6'3" 290. I still think go after Justin Smith and maybe use a rotataion of all 3 playing DE and DT.

cgctobe · 02-27-2008, 07:23 PM

There is only one place i would like to see Charles play.....and thats for another team!

MatthewT · 02-27-2008, 09:57 PM

It's amazing some of the stuff I am hearing about Grant in this post. A couple of years ago I made some of the same observations about him and got completely blasted. I've always believed he is one of the most talented players in the NFL, but doesn't give 100 percent enough of the time. When he decides to play he can dominate. The only problem is over his career he has gone into long stretches of games playing with very little effort or intensity. I will, however, give him the benefit of doubt for 2007 because he was very banged up most of the year. Now, perhaps, because he should be a more mature player at this point, maybe he can put on a show for us in 2008 and become great.

02-26-2008, 01:25 PM	#11
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Charles Grant Originally Posted by SapperSaint Does he have the weight and strength to be a DT? He's at 290 right now. He plays DT in some situational settings. I don't think strength is an issue either. Originally Posted by papz I like it when Grant moves inside on third downs. But as a full time DT, I don't like him there. He'd have to gain more weight decreasing his effectiveness. When in shape and motivated, we know he's a very good DE. Right now he's a prototypical 3-4 DE... he needs to shed a good 10 pounds. I've never thought he was worthy of the money he gets...at least from a statistical standpoint. He had 1 ten sack season and everything else was 6, 2.5, 3, etc... Of course, we could change to a 3-4...

02-26-2008, 01:39 PM	#12
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Charles Grant What is Coach O's prefered scheme?

02-26-2008, 01:42 PM	#13
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Charles Grant Originally Posted by SapperSaint What is Coach O's prefered scheme? I was kidding. We're stuck in a 4-3. We'd have to trade Smith for a couple of LBs, draft Quinten Groves, find a NT. It would be a mess. He's going to be an awesome 3-4 OLB, IMO...from the Demarcus Ware mold.

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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,682	Re: Charles Grant That Groves will be... a player who I'd LOVE to have here.

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02-27-2008, 09:57 PM	#20
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,705	Re: Charles Grant It's amazing some of the stuff I am hearing about Grant in this post. A couple of years ago I made some of the same observations about him and got completely blasted. I've always believed he is one of the most talented players in the NFL, but doesn't give 100 percent enough of the time. When he decides to play he can dominate. The only problem is over his career he has gone into long stretches of games playing with very little effort or intensity. I will, however, give him the benefit of doubt for 2007 because he was very banged up most of the year. Now, perhaps, because he should be a more mature player at this point, maybe he can put on a show for us in 2008 and become great.