Asante to Saints a "done deal"

SapperSaint · 02-27-2008, 08:05 AM

SaintPaul, as always is the calmer head of the bunch.

Ellis and Dorsey still have Pro-Day to show their value. Don't count on them dropping. The only one I see dropping into our lap is Rivers; and that's almost asking too much. Gholston would be my next choice.

The Samuel signing IS a big deal and not just for the reason you think.

1. It means this team is ready to spend some money (FINALLY)!
2. If they don't go after Vilma, a LB will be drafted 1st. By either trading
up or down.
3. David may not be the other starter.
4. I may not even be close to the reality of what is about to happen.

Cancer Beater · 02-27-2008, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by saintsmissile

Now, if Charles Grant would give us ANY kind of consistant pass rush, it might just enable W.Smith's numbers to go up. Want to blame someone, Grant is a viable candidate.

I agree completly.Grant played poorly to the 10th degree.

Both Grant and Smith seemed to be 20 pounds over-weight.

B_Dub_Saint · 02-27-2008, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by Cancer Beater

I'd lose a teaspoon in my boxers if we got him.

LMAO

SapperSaint · 02-27-2008, 09:29 AM

Someone on here yesterday said he waited a table on Grant and that he had lost some weight. So, I am not too sure he can play every down at DT. I don't know, maybe it's just me.

B_Dub_Saint · 02-27-2008, 09:31 AM

I know JD would play in some coverages but wouldnt Mike M be playing most of the time?? Why is everyone hell bent on David?

SapperSaint · 02-27-2008, 09:34 AM

If we pick up Asante, JD is an spacefiller. MM might not be ready for the begining of the season. Usama needs to really kick butt at training camp. Again, IF we pick up Asante.

BRSaintsFan · 02-27-2008, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by saintsmissile

Yep, now I agree Grant is a better than avg run stoppping DE, however, if we had any LB's outside of Fujita who could make a play, we wouldn't have to rely on our DE's so much to play the run. Yeah, Grant is WAY overweight for me. Hell, I'd almost think of switching him to a guy like Tuck in NY. Move him inside as a pass rushing DT. Grant has the size to hold up on the inside and is quick enough to put moves on interior lineman. Might not be a bad idea.

I was thinking along the same lines. If we can get the deal done with Samuel and trade for Vilma or Ian Gold of Denver, then that gives us a little leeway to possibly draft a Vhernon Golston and move Grant inside on passing downs or even permanently. We could then address corner in the second round as this looks to be a deep corner draft.

Samuel and Vilma/Gold would add instant impact to our defense. There are certainly still upgrades to be made, but with those two, Grant, Smith, and few role players here and there, our defense could once again be at the least credible, if not better.

dwiley21 · 02-27-2008, 09:41 AM

That would be a dream signing! Now Get Vilma!!!

scott406 · 02-27-2008, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by dwiley21

That would be a dream signing! Now Get Vilma!!!

Unfortunately, The same website that is reporting Asante to the Saints is reporting Vilma to the Lions.

Which rumor would you rather be right?

"VILMA TO LIONS?

The New York Jets are shopping linebacker Jonathan Vilma, a 4-3 defender who has struggled in coach Eric Mangini's 3-4 system.

A league source tells us that the current favorites to land Vilma are the Lions.

Another question mark regarding Vilma is a knee injury that significantly limited him in 2007. If healthy, he's capable of creating real havoc."

ScottF · 02-27-2008, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by jdiggy

Asante is an exciting pickup, and has been a good corner for New England.

My only concern is that I feel like the ghost of Tebucky Jones is coming back to haunt our secondary (Given that they both come from N.E.).

I know their positions are different, so spare me that... But, both were/are believed to be in the prime of their careers, both coming from a Super Bowl winning Patriots team, both had a lot of HYPE and N.E. let them go...

Is this a homerun? 10 million a year? I gots concerns...

True- and don't forget Big Play Ray from NE

02-27-2008, 08:05 AM	#21
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Asante to Saints a "done deal" SaintPaul, as always is the calmer head of the bunch. Ellis and Dorsey still have Pro-Day to show their value. Don't count on them dropping. The only one I see dropping into our lap is Rivers; and that's almost asking too much. Gholston would be my next choice. The Samuel signing IS a big deal and not just for the reason you think. 1. It means this team is ready to spend some money (FINALLY)! 2. If they don't go after Vilma, a LB will be drafted 1st. By either trading up or down. 3. David may not be the other starter. 4. I may not even be close to the reality of what is about to happen.
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02-27-2008, 08:22 AM	#22
Cancer Beater 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 154	Re: Asante to Saints a "done deal" Originally Posted by saintsmissile Now, if Charles Grant would give us ANY kind of consistant pass rush, it might just enable W.Smith's numbers to go up. Want to blame someone, Grant is a viable candidate. I agree completly.Grant played poorly to the 10th degree. Both Grant and Smith seemed to be 20 pounds over-weight.
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02-27-2008, 09:23 AM	#23
B_Dub_Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 2,345 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Asante to Saints a "done deal" Originally Posted by Cancer Beater I'd lose a teaspoon in my boxers if we got him. LMAO

02-27-2008, 09:29 AM	#24
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Asante to Saints a "done deal" Someone on here yesterday said he waited a table on Grant and that he had lost some weight. So, I am not too sure he can play every down at DT. I don't know, maybe it's just me.

02-27-2008, 09:31 AM	#25
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02-27-2008, 09:34 AM	#26
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Asante to Saints a "done deal" If we pick up Asante, JD is an spacefiller. MM might not be ready for the begining of the season. Usama needs to really kick butt at training camp. Again, IF we pick up Asante.

02-27-2008, 09:34 AM	#27
BRSaintsFan 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 449	Re: Asante to Saints a "done deal" Originally Posted by saintsmissile Yep, now I agree Grant is a better than avg run stoppping DE, however, if we had any LB's outside of Fujita who could make a play, we wouldn't have to rely on our DE's so much to play the run. Yeah, Grant is WAY overweight for me. Hell, I'd almost think of switching him to a guy like Tuck in NY. Move him inside as a pass rushing DT. Grant has the size to hold up on the inside and is quick enough to put moves on interior lineman. Might not be a bad idea. I was thinking along the same lines. If we can get the deal done with Samuel and trade for Vilma or Ian Gold of Denver, then that gives us a little leeway to possibly draft a Vhernon Golston and move Grant inside on passing downs or even permanently. We could then address corner in the second round as this looks to be a deep corner draft. Samuel and Vilma/Gold would add instant impact to our defense. There are certainly still upgrades to be made, but with those two, Grant, Smith, and few role players here and there, our defense could once again be at the least credible, if not better.

02-27-2008, 09:41 AM	#28
dwiley21 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 216	Re: Asante to Saints a "done deal" That would be a dream signing! Now Get Vilma!!!
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02-27-2008, 11:00 AM	#29
scott406 Registered Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Westbank Posts: 72	Re: Asante to Saints a "done deal" Originally Posted by dwiley21 That would be a dream signing! Now Get Vilma!!! Unfortunately, The same website that is reporting Asante to the Saints is reporting Vilma to the Lions. Which rumor would you rather be right? "VILMA TO LIONS? The New York Jets are shopping linebacker Jonathan Vilma, a 4-3 defender who has struggled in coach Eric Mangini's 3-4 system. A league source tells us that the current favorites to land Vilma are the Lions. Another question mark regarding Vilma is a knee injury that significantly limited him in 2007. If healthy, he's capable of creating real havoc."

02-27-2008, 11:10 AM	#30
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Asante to Saints a "done deal" Originally Posted by jdiggy Asante is an exciting pickup, and has been a good corner for New England. My only concern is that I feel like the ghost of Tebucky Jones is coming back to haunt our secondary (Given that they both come from N.E.). I know their positions are different, so spare me that... But, both were/are believed to be in the prime of their careers, both coming from a Super Bowl winning Patriots team, both had a lot of HYPE and N.E. let them go... Is this a homerun? 10 million a year? I gots concerns... True- and don't forget Big Play Ray from NE