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biloxi-indian 03-06-2008 10:34 AM

Loomis just on Sirius...
 
Furor from SR.com did a good job of capsulating Mickey's comments. With full credit I provide Furor's post:

Vilma is high character guy, serious about football and his preparation. Fits in with the mindset of the rest of team.

Can never have enough linebackers. They thought Simoneau played very well, the coaches would agree that he played the best out of all the linebackers last year. Intention was all along to bring him back. Can play multiple positions, will be valuable to team.

McKenzie had a good repair on the knee, spoke w/ therapist yesterday. Excellent report, thought he'd be at full speed at training camp. He's very diligent w/ rehab. Was one of the best CBs in league, had his best year ever.

Jason David - second half of the season his play improved. Struggled because of difference in style of defense from Indy.

Randall Gay - was really excited to play for Saints, fan all his life. Been in SuperBowl twice, championship w/ LSU. Smart, dependable, relatively young...that attracted them to him.

Faine - the economics were too big for Saints. Very confident in J. Goodwin to step in and start.

Deuce - Working with same therapist as McKenzie. Deuce is ahead of Mike, he's running. He should be ready for mini-camp and OTAs.

Everyone was very surprised with start of last season. Credit to the character of players that they were able to fight back into the playoff picture. Feels very good about the overall team right now.

Bush - been a very productive player for the team over the last couple years. The receptions and rushing..although not to the level that people expected. Reggie is determined to improving his rushing. Would be surprised if Bush doesn't have a great season.

Meachem - Did not expect him not to play at all rookie year. Was out of shape in offseason, the knee scope was unexpected which set him back so much he wasn't able to catch up. He is determined to 'right the ship' this season. He sought out Patten and has been working with him every day. Patten says he was a good pick and he will turn it around this season.

In free agency players always cost more than you expect. You end up with 1 or 2 players less than you hoped for. You make up for it in the draft, or wait for the secondary market.

On Shockey - Can't speak about another team player that's under contract. Really good player, any team would love to have him. Respects the Giants org very much, wouldn't want to comment.

Trent Green - they are looking at QB position. Been lucky Drew hasn't been injured. If they could talk Green into coming in with the team, it would be a big plus. Aren't unhappy w/ Jamie Martin at all.

ALERT: Loomis on Sirius NFL Radio in 10AM hour - Page 2 - SaintsReport Community Forums

Several other tid bits I picked up were: Meachem has been working out with Patten for the past four weeks EVERYDAY!

The Saints are not unhappy with Martin, but will look at the QB market to see if they can upgrade. Said Brees has played all the snaps over the last two years and this is good and hope it continues.

papz 03-06-2008 10:56 AM

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Nice find and good recap.

biloxi-indian 03-06-2008 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 156893)
Nice find and good recap.

papz...I listened to Mickey and thought Furor did a good job in his recap. I found Mickey's comments about Duece and MM encouraging. Also, Meachem working out with Patten every day for the past four weeks shows me Meachem wants to prove something in 2008.

Tobias-Reiper 03-06-2008 11:32 AM

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...why wouldn't he comment on Shockey? hmmm...

There's no tampering in denying they are trying to get him via trade or admitting they are trying to get him via trade. Tampering would be if they talk directly to Shockey.

I may be wrong... but this may be a draft day trade in the making...

cajunasian61 03-06-2008 11:37 AM

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Yeah but these GMs are all like politicians. Trying to put a good spin on everything, and not trying to ruffle too many feathers. Did you guys actually think Loomis was going to say that Meachem was a bust. He drafted Meachem. His pride will not let him do that. I doubt McKenzie will be ready by the beginning of the regular season.

stockman311 03-06-2008 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by biloxi-indian (Post 156890)
Can never have enough linebackers. They thought Simoneau played very well, the coaches would agree that he played the best out of all the linebackers last year. Intention was all along to bring him back. Can play multiple positions, will be valuable to team.


OK, what the hell was that? Did they watch this guy last year? Were they even paying attention? First of all Fujita was our best linebacker last year and it wasn't even a close contest. Secondly, no Simoneau can't play all the linebacker postitions. He can't even play his own very well. Finally, maybe he is valuable to the team in special teams. We will see. For me I hope he never sees the field this year.

cajunasian61 03-06-2008 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper (Post 156898)
...why wouldn't he comment on Shockey? hmmm...

There's no tampering in denying they are trying to get him via trade or admitting they are trying to get him via trade. Tampering would be if they talk directly to Shockey.

I may be wrong... but this may be a draft day trade in the making...

I would not mind them possibly trading down with the Giants in the first round and getting Shockey, because at least they wouldn't lose any draft picks. But the G-men do have the last pick in the 1st round. Maybe we could get Shockey and their 1st packaged with their second rounder for #10. I would love that as long as either Dorsey or Ellis doesn't fall to 10, in which case I think we would have to take the DT.

Draft day should definitely be exciting

mikesaintfan 03-06-2008 11:42 AM

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great to hear good news on duece and mm...and any news on meachum

LordOfEntropy 03-06-2008 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by stockman311 (Post 156901)
OK, what the hell was that? Did they watch this guy last year? Were they even paying attention? First of all Fujita was our best linebacker last year and it wasn't even a close contest. Secondly, no Simoneau can't play all the linebacker postitions. He can't even play his own very well. Finally, maybe he is valuable to the team in special teams. We will see. For me I hope he never sees the field this year.

That was the part that blew my mind as well. Best LB on the team?... have the coaches and management been smoking something?

PS - you know, after thinking about this for a minute, if they really thought that Simoneau played really well and was the best LB on the team, then they wouldn't have gone after Vilma in FA, and wouldn't have paid as much as a second round draft pick to get him. So this is bull. Just say it after me Mickey - "he sucked, so we replaced him this year".

SapperSaint 03-06-2008 11:55 AM

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Good stuff; don't agree with the Simoneau comment.

biloxi-indian 03-06-2008 12:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper (Post 156898)
...why wouldn't he comment on Shockey? hmmm...

There's no tampering in denying they are trying to get him via trade or admitting they are trying to get him via trade. Tampering would be if they talk directly to Shockey.

I may be wrong... but this may be a draft day trade in the making...

Tobias, Loomis said that he did not want to speak about a player who is under contract. I took that to mean...no visable tampering!

andersen 03-06-2008 12:39 PM

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If he thinks Simmoneau was the best LB on the team, that's a sad, sad thing.

beauchristopher 03-06-2008 01:01 PM

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Woah McKenzie is a lot closer to returning than we all thought if that's the case! Great news!

maximkat 03-06-2008 01:35 PM

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Simoneau the best lb on the team??!! hhaahahaha what a riot, the guy is a bum. seriously, there is a reason Loomis is a GM cause he sure wouldn't make it as a coach with that brilliant deduction.

BooBirdSaint 03-06-2008 01:44 PM

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Sounds like a lot of pre draft day smoke screen stuff if you ask me... Why give potental trade partners any important info like "your starting CB/RB wont' be ready til midseason ect ect".

FireVenturi 03-06-2008 06:18 PM

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Dude, if he thinks Simoneau was the best LB on the team he must have done a lot of crack with Rick James!! Sorry, but this kind of talent evaluation makes me angry!

FireVenturi 03-06-2008 06:22 PM

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fujita-95 tackles,3 sacks, 2FF
Simoneau-70 tackles,2 sacks,0 FF

WTF? best LB???

leilung 03-06-2008 06:41 PM

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I'm kind of encouraged by the talk about Deuce actually. I know the 15th is coming and he's got bonus money in the balance due to be paid then. I just hope the team doesn't do something stupid like cut him before we see if his recovery is a plus or minus.

Get well Deuce!!!

SaintFanInATLHELL 03-06-2008 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by biloxi-indian (Post 156890)
Furor from SR.com did a good job of capsulating Mickey's comments. With full credit I provide Furor's post:


Can never have enough linebackers. They thought Simoneau played very well, the coaches would agree that he played the best out of all the linebackers last year. Intention was all along to bring him back. Can play multiple positions, will be valuable to team.

DANGER WILL ROBINSON!!! DANGER! DANGER!

Whatever the Saints staff is smoking we all need to stay away from.

Simoneau was awful. Couldn't get off blocks. Out of position much of the time. Missed tackles when he got into position. Couldn't cover. To quote Coach Mora

Quote:

Diddley poo!
Now I finally understand why the defense was so awful. If the coaches cannot see what is obvious even to the blind, then we have much bigger problems than lack of talent on the defense.

SFIAH

lynwood 03-06-2008 07:04 PM

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He's not gonna tear down Simoneau when he can possibly throw him in a trade package or if they plan to use him as a backup or on special teams.

QBREES9 03-06-2008 08:29 PM

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I was laffing so hard I almost drove off the road, when I heard Mickey
talking about Simoneau. Thats was just nuts.

He's not gonna tear down Simoneau when he can possibly throw him in a trade package or if they plan to use him as a backup or on special teams.

I do agree.

bobad 03-07-2008 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsmissile (Post 157068)
Okay, if he just said that David's play "improved" late last season let me be the first to say, "LOOMIS YOU'RE FIRED!"

The front office has some unwritten rules they must follow in order to run the team properly.

Rule No 1. Never say anything about a player that would diminish his market value.

Rule No 2. Never say anything about your players that will scare off free agents.

That sort of puts everything Loomis said in a different light, doesn't it? :D

stockman311 03-07-2008 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by bobad (Post 157107)
The front office has some unwritten rules they must follow in order to run the team properly.

Rule No 1. Never say anything about a player that would diminish his market value.

Rule No 2. Never say anything about your players that will scare off free agents.

That sort of puts everything Loomis said in a different light, doesn't it? :D

Isn't he insulting Fujita with that comment? If I were Fujita I would be pissed.
I mean it's fine to have tact, but does he think we are all stupid or blind?

Cruize 03-07-2008 01:33 PM

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Deuce and McKenzie healthy would be incredible.

Kittykat 03-07-2008 07:30 PM

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If 98% of what he said is BS, I hope the 2% that's not BS includes the purported recovery of Deuce and MM.

I do wonder if we'll see MM at all this season.

mvtrucking 03-07-2008 09:45 PM

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Haven't some teams been interested in Simoneau? Maybe the positive spin is for trade value? (Although game film does not lie Mickey)

LordOfEntropy 03-08-2008 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mvtrucking (Post 157235)
Haven't some teams been interested in Simoneau? Maybe the positive spin is for trade value? (Although game film does not lie Mickey)

That's my guess. Loomis and the coaches can't be so football ignorant as to believe what Mickey said about Simoneau. It's got to be posturing for trade value.

hagan714 03-08-2008 07:14 AM

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Does the front office do drug testing?


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