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AsylumGuido 03-07-2008 01:43 PM

Re: Dan Morgan (merged)
 
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Originally Posted by Cassady37 (Post 157139)
I think all things considered I would've have rather taken the chance on Takeo Spikes.

Spikes would not have been available at the same cost. Morgan's past allows for a low base incentive laden contract with high reward/low risk. Remember, Morgan missed the final 13 games last season because of an achilles injury, not a concussion. In fact, he could have returned but was placed on IR because of the emergence of Jon Beason. He suffered his last concussion in August of 2006. It will have been two full years come the start of this season.

Once again, I like the move ... alot.

Cassady37 03-07-2008 02:09 PM

Re: Dan Morgan (merged)
 
Five concussions and a partially torn achilles, (which, by the way, gives a greater increase for a full rupture of the same tendon or the one opposite of it) for a bargain-basement price and a player who may never see the field. Or pay a little extra for a player that has a great chance of solidifying your LB corps and actually being on the field and contributing in a much greater way. I'd still take the chance on Takeo. And considering the gambling results of the Saints, I still like my odds better.

AsylumGuido 03-07-2008 02:18 PM

Re: Dan Morgan (merged)
 
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Originally Posted by Cassady37 (Post 157172)
Five concussions and a partially torn achilles, (which, by the way, gives a greater increase for a full rupture of the same tendon or the one opposite of it) for a bargain-basement price and a player who may never see the field. Or pay a little extra for a player that has a great chance of solidifying your LB corps and actually being on the field and contributing in a much greater way. I'd still take the chance on Takeo. And considering the gambling results of the Saints, I still like my odds better.

Don't forget that Spikes is damaged goods, as well. He missed the final two games last year with a shoulder injury which required off-season surgery. He also missed four games in 2006 and played in just THREE games in 2005.

darby 03-07-2008 02:25 PM

Re: Dan Morgan (merged)
 
He's a good pickup right up until the point where he lowers his helmet to tackle a 225# running back, blacks out, then pisses his pants. Hope he had a lifetime supply of Depends worked into his contract somewhere. Bad move. He'll end up on the bench soon enough....drooling. :confused:

Cassady37 03-07-2008 02:50 PM

Re: Dan Morgan (merged)
 
And if you'll compare career games and stats you'll see Morgan has missed quite a bit more games in recent years than Spikes has and Takeo's numbers are definietly better. And considering the types of injuries both players have, I'd still take my plug-in chances on Spikes. But, alas, it's really a mute point seeing how the brain-trust in the FO has pretty much made it's move. I'm just saying I would've took my chances with anyone besides a habitual concussion magnet.

Euphoria 03-07-2008 03:04 PM

Re: Dan Morgan (merged)
 
Morgan is a better pass rusher than Spikes.

Cassady37 03-07-2008 03:18 PM

Re: Dan Morgan (merged)
 
"Morgan is a better pass rusher than Spikes."

Which would be good if 1- he lasts past the first hit
and 2- if we had any defensive package resembling rushing a LB on a blitz.

AsylumGuido 03-07-2008 03:22 PM

Re: Dan Morgan (merged)
 
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Originally Posted by Cassady37 (Post 157179)
And if you'll compare career games and stats you'll see Morgan has missed quite a bit more games in recent years than Spikes has and Takeo's numbers are definietly better. And considering the types of injuries both players have, I'd still take my plug-in chances on Spikes. But, alas, it's really a mute point seeing how the brain-trust in the FO has pretty much made it's move. I'm just saying I would've took my chances with anyone besides a habitual concussion magnet.

True. But it could be that management is looking for a high reward/low risk (cap wise) solution while still targeting a Keith Rivers or Dan Connor in the draft longterm.

Timing may have been another issue. Wasn't Spikes officially released AFTER Morgan was signed? May be wrong on this but I know Spikes was released yesterday (Thursday) and I thought the Morgan deal was finalized either late Wednesday or early Thursday.

Anyone know the timeline?

AsylumGuido 03-07-2008 03:24 PM

Re: Dan Morgan (merged)
 
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Originally Posted by Cassady37 (Post 157184)
"Morgan is a better pass rusher than Spikes."

Which would be good if 1- he lasts past the first hit
and 2- if we had any defensive package resembling rushing a LB on a blitz.

We didn't have much of a cornerback blitz package coming into this past season and saw it quite often. With Morgan on that weakside we could see some of that.

Cassady37 03-07-2008 03:32 PM

Re: Dan Morgan (merged)
 
We can only hope we are targeting Rivers, that would be worth the gap-stop pick-up of Morgan. And yes, as a former defensive player I want more blitzes and from everywhere, not the same damn ones everytime you blitz. I have hated our D-coordinator the last few years because of his mediocre schemes. Granted the players were not the best, but you hide them using unpredictable play-calls and blitzes not leave them on islands with no pressure on opposing QBs. Ok, ok, stop, this is a new year, a new chance, calm down....1,2,3,4........(sigh)....I'm better now.


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