Dear Mickey Loomis.....Go Get DeAngelo Hall!!!!!!

Tobias-Reiper · 03-07-2008, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by gandhi1007

TB,

Trufant, Pac-Man Jones, Tillman, & Asomugha? C'mon....you're reaching. There are three (one of which you left off your list).....Champ Bailey, Asante Samuels (maybe), & Nate Clements.

Am I reading this right? You are saying that Asante Samuels is MAYBE better than Hall?

Reaching with Tillman, Asomugha, Pacman?

Dude, do you watch the games or you just go by the stat sheets you read of blogs/ESPN?

gandhi1007 · 03-07-2008, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

Am I reading this right? You are saying that Asante Samuels is MAYBE better than Hall?

Reaching with Tillman, Asomugha, Pacman?

Dude, do you watch the games or you just go by the stat sheets you read of blogs/ESPN?

No....it comes from playing football & knowing the benefits of systems at certain positions. Samuels benefitted from a 3-4 zone defense. The likes of which had one hell of a front seven & a damn good safety. Watch his stats fall off next year. Pac-Man showed signs, but how much did we get to see? Approximately 1 year of Pro Bowl quality play. Tillman & Asomugha are in my top 10, but not top 5. Hall is the real deal....a loud mouth, but still the real deal. Besides that....I'll go on to say that Deion Sanders talked more smack than any other player on the field when he played, but.....I can say that he also backed it up on the field. Hall is of the same mold. I'm not saying he's "Prime Time", but most good CB's talk s**t.

Tobias-Reiper · 03-07-2008, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by gandhi1007

No....it comes from playing football ....Watch his stats fall off next year
.

That there disqulifies you.
a) stats mean dick in football.
b) playing peewe is not "playing football".

WhoDatQB · 03-07-2008, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by gandhi1007

No....it comes from playing football & knowing the benefits of systems at certain positions. Samuels benefitted from a 3-4 zone defense. The likes of which had one hell of a front seven & a damn good safety. Watch his stats fall off next year. Pac-Man showed signs, but how much did we get to see? Approximately 1 year of Pro Bowl quality play. Tillman & Asomugha are in my top 10, but not top 5. Hall is the real deal....a loud mouth, but still the real deal. Besides that....I'll go on to say that Deion Sanders talked more smack than any other player on the field when he played, but.....I can say that he also backed it up on the field. Hall is of the same mold. I'm not saying he's "Prime Time", but most good CB's talk s**t.

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OK, now I agree that I do not think samuels is that great. He played in a zone style defense, however the Eagles rarely make personnel mistakes, and the Patriots play some man to man coverages.

However there are plenty of CB's I would rather have.

1. Champ Bailey
2. Marcus Trufant
3. Charles Woodson
4. Al Harris
5. Mike McKenzie
6. Antonio Cromartie
7. Terence Newman
8. Nate Clements
9. Walt Harris
10. Nnamdi Asomugha
11. Charles Tillman
12. Asante Samuels

While I expect all really good CB's to talk smack, I do not expect them to also lose a game single handedly for a team, as Hall as done on two separate occasions with multiple personal foul calls on one drive.

03-07-2008, 01:29 PM	#1
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Dear Mickey Loomis.....Go Get DeAngelo Hall!!!!!! Originally Posted by gandhi1007 TB, Trufant, Pac-Man Jones, Tillman, & Asomugha? C'mon....you're reaching. There are three (one of which you left off your list).....Champ Bailey, Asante Samuels (maybe), & Nate Clements. Am I reading this right? You are saying that Asante Samuels is MAYBE better than Hall? Reaching with Tillman, Asomugha, Pacman? Dude, do you watch the games or you just go by the stat sheets you read of blogs/ESPN?

03-07-2008, 01:43 PM	#2
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Re: Dear Mickey Loomis.....Go Get DeAngelo Hall!!!!!! Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper Am I reading this right? You are saying that Asante Samuels is MAYBE better than Hall? Reaching with Tillman, Asomugha, Pacman? Dude, do you watch the games or you just go by the stat sheets you read of blogs/ESPN? No....it comes from playing football & knowing the benefits of systems at certain positions. Samuels benefitted from a 3-4 zone defense. The likes of which had one hell of a front seven & a damn good safety. Watch his stats fall off next year. Pac-Man showed signs, but how much did we get to see? Approximately 1 year of Pro Bowl quality play. Tillman & Asomugha are in my top 10, but not top 5. Hall is the real deal....a loud mouth, but still the real deal. Besides that....I'll go on to say that Deion Sanders talked more smack than any other player on the field when he played, but.....I can say that he also backed it up on the field. Hall is of the same mold. I'm not saying he's "Prime Time", but most good CB's talk s**t.
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03-07-2008, 04:21 PM	#3
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Dear Mickey Loomis.....Go Get DeAngelo Hall!!!!!! Originally Posted by gandhi1007 No....it comes from playing football ....Watch his stats fall off next year . That there disqulifies you. a) stats mean dick in football. b) playing peewe is not "playing football".

03-07-2008, 08:47 PM	#4
WhoDatQB Boondock Saint Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: F***ing Atlanta Posts: 322	Re: Dear Mickey Loomis.....Go Get DeAngelo Hall!!!!!! Originally Posted by gandhi1007 No....it comes from playing football & knowing the benefits of systems at certain positions. Samuels benefitted from a 3-4 zone defense. The likes of which had one hell of a front seven & a damn good safety. Watch his stats fall off next year. Pac-Man showed signs, but how much did we get to see? Approximately 1 year of Pro Bowl quality play. Tillman & Asomugha are in my top 10, but not top 5. Hall is the real deal....a loud mouth, but still the real deal. Besides that....I'll go on to say that Deion Sanders talked more smack than any other player on the field when he played, but.....I can say that he also backed it up on the field. Hall is of the same mold. I'm not saying he's "Prime Time", but most good CB's talk s**t. =============== OK, now I agree that I do not think samuels is that great. He played in a zone style defense, however the Eagles rarely make personnel mistakes, and the Patriots play some man to man coverages. However there are plenty of CB's I would rather have. 1. Champ Bailey 2. Marcus Trufant 3. Charles Woodson 4. Al Harris 5. Mike McKenzie 6. Antonio Cromartie 7. Terence Newman 8. Nate Clements 9. Walt Harris 10. Nnamdi Asomugha 11. Charles Tillman 12. Asante Samuels While I expect all really good CB's to talk smack, I do not expect them to also lose a game single handedly for a team, as Hall as done on two separate occasions with multiple personal foul calls on one drive.