Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh (Post 157661)

To move up to 6, we would have to part with a 2nd round pick. So would you rather walk away from day 1 of the draft with:

a) Sedrick Ellis

or

b) Keith Rivers and Brandon Flowers

Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh (Post 157661)

To move up to 6, we would have to part with a 2nd round pick. So would you rather walk away from day 1 of the draft with:

a) Sedrick Ellis

or

b) Keith Rivers and Brandon Flowers

Originally Posted by BIGEASY504 (Post 157652)

With the signing of McGray, moving Grant inside to tackle on passing downs makes taking a DT in later rounds. So a top flight LB is needed more now than a DT

Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh (Post 157661)

To move up to 6, we would have to part with a 2nd round pick. So would you rather walk away from day 1 of the draft with:

a) Sedrick Ellis

or

b) Keith Rivers and Brandon Flowers

Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh (Post 157661)

To move up to 6, we would have to part with a 2nd round pick. So would you rather walk away from day 1 of the draft with:

a) Sedrick Ellis

or

b) Keith Rivers and Brandon Flowers

Originally Posted by saintsmissile (Post 157758)

The Saints DESPERATEY need a DT? Apparently the Saints don't think so with the resigning of B.Young. You now still have B.Young, H.Thomas, K.Clancy, A.Lake, Orein Harris and M.Boykin. Doesn't look like a team "desperate" to me. Now, you look at CB and this is what you have:

Craft at 35
Thomas at 34, think we let him go finally
G.Fassitt-WHO?
McKenzie-31 coming off major injury
Anwar Phillips-25 has done nada, even on the pratice squad
U.Young-22 jury still out on him
J.David-who care about his age, he sucks.

Compared to the CB's, the DT's all look like ALL PROS!

Originally Posted by saintsmissile (Post 157758)

The Saints DESPERATEY need a DT? Apparently the Saints don't think so with the resigning of B.Young. You now still have B.Young, H.Thomas, K.Clancy, A.Lake, Orein Harris and M.Boykin. Doesn't look like a team "desperate" to me. Now, you look at CB and this is what you have:

Craft at 35
Thomas at 34, think we let him go finally
G.Fassitt-WHO?
McKenzie-31 coming off major injury
Anwar Phillips-25 has done nada, even on the pratice squad
U.Young-22 jury still out on him
J.David-who care about his age, he sucks.

Compared to the CB's, the DT's all look like ALL PROS!

Originally Posted by gandhi1007 (Post 157822)

One thing I will say is that our QB pressure was horrible last year. Hell....even Joey Harrington looked decent against us with his 10 second drops. We had no rush at DT & they weren't stopping the run up the gut either. Another good DT & our ends won't be doubled constantly. Personally.....I think that without being doubled, Grant & Smith can do some damage. We really need a DT.

Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh (Post 157896)

There are no CB's in this draft worthy of a top 10 selection.

Originally Posted by saintsmissile (Post 157888)

Uh, getting pass rush from DT's is not the strength of a 4-3. It should be coming from your ends. You "draft a DT with #10" guys kill me. Again, it is my opinion that our DT's are probably one of the most consistant of our defense. With our DB's and secondary beset with injuries, age and flat out just no talent, you guys STILL want to go after a player in a DT who would be a PARTIAL player at best! Here's what ESPN had to say about our "middle" defense which directly relates to our DT's. DT's MAIN priority is to stop the run and according to these comments, it looks like they pretty much did that last season. I would like someone here to post the top 3 pass rushing DT's last year and tell me how many sacks they actually had compared to our guys. Course, our numbers are skewed due to Young's injury last season. Here is ESPN's comments concerning our DT's.


In fact, not only did New Orleans have a good run defense last year, but that run defense was strongest up the middle. The Saints ranked 10th in Adjusted Line Yards (explained here) on runs listed in the play-by-play as up the middle or behind a guard. However, they ranked 29th against runs around left end and 26th against runs around right end.