If We Get A Corner...

gandhi1007 · 03-12-2008, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by pakowitz

he ran a 4.4 40 at the combine

4.48 if I'm not mistaken, but like I said in my earlier post....he's a ballhawk. He covered extremely well on a team with an average at best pass rush. That says alot about a CB.

FireVenturi · 03-12-2008, 10:18 PM

ACtually the two drafts books I have, have the Cb position rated as a B or higher, I think it is a deep class. Jenkinks,McKelvin, and DRC would be fine. Talib as a FS, maybe, he looked terrible in the "flip your hips" drill at the combine which unlike the 40 tells a lot about a db.(see Mike McKenzie 4.58 40yd dash)

thesaintsfan · 03-12-2008, 10:30 PM

I agree the CB class is deep it just lacks a headliner. I don't see a bonafide top 5 or even top 10 guy.

thesaintsfan · 03-13-2008, 06:03 PM

Thanks saintsmissle, I didn't know that about DRC. That could explain why such a great athlete ended up at a small school. Does anybody have a link for any DRC video or other info that would help me research this kid?

Ashley · 03-13-2008, 08:49 PM

Drc, for me

pakowitz · 03-13-2008, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by thesaintsfan

Thanks saintsmissle, I didn't know that about DRC. That could explain why such a great athlete ended up at a small school. Does anybody have a link for any DRC video or other info that would help me research this kid?

he only played 1 year of high school football... his sr year.. wasnt highly recruited... there u go...

QBREES9 · 03-13-2008, 09:13 PM

DRC is going to be a stud. But I think we take Tracy Porter in the second round.

Porter was on the NFL Radio Sirius Blitz this afternoon. He said the SAINTS talk to him.

Ashley · 03-13-2008, 09:17 PM

here is one link.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

pakowitz · 03-13-2008, 09:27 PM

that was a nice pick by DRC against lavelle hawkins.. played it perfectly

thesaintsfan · 03-13-2008, 09:50 PM

Yeah pakowitz I read that earlier today on draftcountdown. The more research I do on this guy the more I like him. It seems like he has as much raw potential as any player in recent history. Yeah, he didn't play until his senior year but you can look at that a couple of different ways. The optimist will say that since he hasn't played alot ball he'll be like a blank canvas. He hasn't had time to develop alot of bad habits that come from poor coaching. He will be a DB coach's dream project player. Right now he has the raw tools to be a good player but with the right coaching he could be a great player.

The pessimist on the other hand will ask how long will it take a player who has such limited experience to develop into a starter who can be relied on play to play and game to game. A freakish athlete can get by on talent alone in high school and college but in the NFL it's not that easy. To be a consistent NFL starter a player needs to be complete. He needs to be able to understand the game and his team's specific system. He needs instincts to go along with athletisism. Just look at Levar Arrington's career. When he was at Penn State that guy was a super freak. He might have been the most rediculous athlete I've ever seen at that level (see the Levar Leaps 1 & 2) and he was drafted in the top 3 because of that raw athletisism and playmaking ability. You basically have to be superman to be drafted that high as a linebacker and he was...in college. While he was with the Redskins he was a solid but highly overrated player. He made alot of highlight reel plays that got fans excited but what went unnoticed is how many times he was freelancing and blowing assignments. Anybody remember Moran Norris? That guy put up some insane workout numbers but didn't pan out. The same year we drafted Norris we drafted Sedrick Hodge also. He had crazy numbers too but he never played up to those numbers. I just can't see the FO spending the 10th pick of the draft on a guy so raw. He's the definition of a boom or bust player and it would take some huge onions to go up and get him there. Maybe we could trade down, pick up another couple of picks and then get him a little later. At least then if he busted instead of boomed we might get lucky on a player we drafted with the extra picks.

03-12-2008, 09:53 PM	#11
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Re: If We Get A Corner... Originally Posted by pakowitz he ran a 4.4 40 at the combine 4.48 if I'm not mistaken, but like I said in my earlier post....he's a ballhawk. He covered extremely well on a team with an average at best pass rush. That says alot about a CB.

03-12-2008, 10:18 PM	#12
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	Re: If We Get A Corner... ACtually the two drafts books I have, have the Cb position rated as a B or higher, I think it is a deep class. Jenkinks,McKelvin, and DRC would be fine. Talib as a FS, maybe, he looked terrible in the "flip your hips" drill at the combine which unlike the 40 tells a lot about a db.(see Mike McKenzie 4.58 40yd dash)

03-12-2008, 10:30 PM	#13
thesaintsfan The Real Deal Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 174	Re: If We Get A Corner... I agree the CB class is deep it just lacks a headliner. I don't see a bonafide top 5 or even top 10 guy.

03-13-2008, 06:03 PM	#14
thesaintsfan The Real Deal Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 174	Re: If We Get A Corner... Thanks saintsmissle, I didn't know that about DRC. That could explain why such a great athlete ended up at a small school. Does anybody have a link for any DRC video or other info that would help me research this kid?

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Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Re: If We Get A Corner... Drc, for me

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03-13-2008, 08:57 PM	#16
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Re: If We Get A Corner... Originally Posted by thesaintsfan Thanks saintsmissle, I didn't know that about DRC. That could explain why such a great athlete ended up at a small school. Does anybody have a link for any DRC video or other info that would help me research this kid? he only played 1 year of high school football... his sr year.. wasnt highly recruited... there u go...

03-13-2008, 09:13 PM	#17
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: If We Get A Corner... DRC is going to be a stud. But I think we take Tracy Porter in the second round. Porter was on the NFL Radio Sirius Blitz this afternoon. He said the SAINTS talk to him.

03-13-2008, 09:17 PM	#18
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Re: If We Get A Corner... here is one link. YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

03-13-2008, 09:27 PM	#19
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Re: If We Get A Corner... that was a nice pick by DRC against lavelle hawkins.. played it perfectly

03-13-2008, 09:50 PM	#20
thesaintsfan The Real Deal Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 174	Re: If We Get A Corner... Yeah pakowitz I read that earlier today on draftcountdown. The more research I do on this guy the more I like him. It seems like he has as much raw potential as any player in recent history. Yeah, he didn't play until his senior year but you can look at that a couple of different ways. The optimist will say that since he hasn't played alot ball he'll be like a blank canvas. He hasn't had time to develop alot of bad habits that come from poor coaching. He will be a DB coach's dream project player. Right now he has the raw tools to be a good player but with the right coaching he could be a great player. The pessimist on the other hand will ask how long will it take a player who has such limited experience to develop into a starter who can be relied on play to play and game to game. A freakish athlete can get by on talent alone in high school and college but in the NFL it's not that easy. To be a consistent NFL starter a player needs to be complete. He needs to be able to understand the game and his team's specific system. He needs instincts to go along with athletisism. Just look at Levar Arrington's career. When he was at Penn State that guy was a super freak. He might have been the most rediculous athlete I've ever seen at that level (see the Levar Leaps 1 & 2) and he was drafted in the top 3 because of that raw athletisism and playmaking ability. You basically have to be superman to be drafted that high as a linebacker and he was...in college. While he was with the Redskins he was a solid but highly overrated player. He made alot of highlight reel plays that got fans excited but what went unnoticed is how many times he was freelancing and blowing assignments. Anybody remember Moran Norris? That guy put up some insane workout numbers but didn't pan out. The same year we drafted Norris we drafted Sedrick Hodge also. He had crazy numbers too but he never played up to those numbers. I just can't see the FO spending the 10th pick of the draft on a guy so raw. He's the definition of a boom or bust player and it would take some huge onions to go up and get him there. Maybe we could trade down, pick up another couple of picks and then get him a little later. At least then if he busted instead of boomed we might get lucky on a player we drafted with the extra picks.