Draft Possiblity - Trade up

BG12136 · 03-23-2008, 05:17 PM

Hello all, first time posting-long time reader. Life time Saints fan, finally decided to participate.

In looking at the Saints roster and their off season moves, one possibility I see them making in this years draft is trading up with New England.

At this point I think the Saints want to upgrade DT more than any other position. Lets face it, everyone fell in love with the pressure the Giants front 4 were able to produce last season.

So if Dorsey or Ellis are still on the board at the 7th pick, I bet they would try to get New England's #7 pick. I don't think either one will be available at the current 10th pick, and I don't believe that DT Balmer has enough to be picked at 10. If they can't do a trade then they will probably pick the best player available, between available LB and CBs.

BRSaintsFan · 03-23-2008, 05:25 PM

Welcome. I sure would not mind seeing Dorsey or Ellis on our D, but unless they fall to 10, I wouldn't trade up. The acquisition of McCray gives us a pass rusher that would allow Grant to move inside on passing situations and there are always pass rush specialists that can be found in the mid rounds of the draft. Theres also some solid DTs that we can get in the middle rounds like Dre Moore, Demarrio Pressley, and Andre Fluellen. I think there is good enough defensive value that will be available at 10 for us to stay there. And depending on what happens with Deuce, there is always Mendenhall at 10.

Euphoria · 03-23-2008, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by BG12136

Hello all, first time posting-long time reader. Life time Saints fan, finally decided to participate.

In looking at the Saints roster and their off season moves, one possibility I see them making in this years draft is trading up with New England.

At this point I think the Saints want to upgrade DT more than any other position. Lets face it, everyone fell in love with the pressure the Giants front 4 were able to produce last season.

So if Dorsey or Ellis are still on the board at the 7th pick, I bet they would try to get New England's #7 pick. I don't think either one will be available at the current 10th pick, and I don't believe that DT Balmer has enough to be picked at 10. If they can't do a trade then they will probably pick the best player available, between available LB and CBs.

NE will not trade down with us. They need D players. I wouldn't let a team move up to draft a D player when I am keying on a D player. You have to trade to the 6th spot in front of them.

thesaintsfan · 03-23-2008, 08:13 PM

I say stay put or trade down if anything. We do need help at DT but like BRSaintsFan said we can pick up a solid DT later on without giving up any picks.

rjakapeanut · 03-23-2008, 08:20 PM

NE will trade down with us. They can get the same players on D they want at #10 (McKelvin/Cromartie).

I still haven't found a single post of yours that I agree with , lol.

QBREES9 · 03-23-2008, 09:05 PM

Stay put and Keith Rivers LB USC.

Euphoria · 03-23-2008, 10:28 PM

I am all for trading down... but getting a DT that "will do". Will get us 7-9.

foreverfan · 03-24-2008, 08:51 AM

We need to draft a player that can step on the field and contribute right a way.

ScottF · 03-24-2008, 10:25 AM

You have to figure the brain trust has every scenario ready and would pull the trigger on a deal if it was do-able. Let's face it, moving up and getting Dorsey instead of Cromartie is like getting Will Smith instead of Jason Craft.

As far as NE needing the same D players, I think they are worse off in the defensive backfield. Belichek is a "genius", but I would not want to be in his position where he has to blow a #7 overall on DRC, especially when DRC will struggle to start his rookie year.

D_it_up · 03-24-2008, 10:33 AM

The ONLY person I think worthy of trading up to get would be McFadden. There are more than capable DT's that could be available in the 2nd round (granted they are still on the board). I just hope the Saints don't botch this one by doing so. Stand pat or trade down. That is all they should do.

03-23-2008, 05:17 PM	#1
BG12136 Rookie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 18	Draft Possiblity - Trade up Hello all, first time posting-long time reader. Life time Saints fan, finally decided to participate. In looking at the Saints roster and their off season moves, one possibility I see them making in this years draft is trading up with New England. At this point I think the Saints want to upgrade DT more than any other position. Lets face it, everyone fell in love with the pressure the Giants front 4 were able to produce last season. So if Dorsey or Ellis are still on the board at the 7th pick, I bet they would try to get New England's #7 pick. I don't think either one will be available at the current 10th pick, and I don't believe that DT Balmer has enough to be picked at 10. If they can't do a trade then they will probably pick the best player available, between available LB and CBs.
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03-23-2008, 05:25 PM	#2
BRSaintsFan 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 449	Re: Draft Possiblity - Trade up Welcome. I sure would not mind seeing Dorsey or Ellis on our D, but unless they fall to 10, I wouldn't trade up. The acquisition of McCray gives us a pass rusher that would allow Grant to move inside on passing situations and there are always pass rush specialists that can be found in the mid rounds of the draft. Theres also some solid DTs that we can get in the middle rounds like Dre Moore, Demarrio Pressley, and Andre Fluellen. I think there is good enough defensive value that will be available at 10 for us to stay there. And depending on what happens with Deuce, there is always Mendenhall at 10.

03-23-2008, 07:17 PM	#3
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Draft Possiblity - Trade up Originally Posted by BG12136 Hello all, first time posting-long time reader. Life time Saints fan, finally decided to participate. In looking at the Saints roster and their off season moves, one possibility I see them making in this years draft is trading up with New England. At this point I think the Saints want to upgrade DT more than any other position. Lets face it, everyone fell in love with the pressure the Giants front 4 were able to produce last season. So if Dorsey or Ellis are still on the board at the 7th pick, I bet they would try to get New England's #7 pick. I don't think either one will be available at the current 10th pick, and I don't believe that DT Balmer has enough to be picked at 10. If they can't do a trade then they will probably pick the best player available, between available LB and CBs. NE will not trade down with us. They need D players. I wouldn't let a team move up to draft a D player when I am keying on a D player. You have to trade to the 6th spot in front of them.

03-23-2008, 08:13 PM	#4
thesaintsfan The Real Deal Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 174	Re: Draft Possiblity - Trade up I say stay put or trade down if anything. We do need help at DT but like BRSaintsFan said we can pick up a solid DT later on without giving up any picks.

03-23-2008, 08:20 PM	#5
rjakapeanut 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 204	Re: Draft Possiblity - Trade up NE will trade down with us. They can get the same players on D they want at #10 (McKelvin/Cromartie). I still haven't found a single post of yours that I agree with , lol.
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QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: Draft Possiblity - Trade up Stay put and Keith Rivers LB USC.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Draft Possiblity - Trade up I am all for trading down... but getting a DT that "will do". Will get us 7-9.

03-24-2008, 08:51 AM	#8
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Draft Possiblity - Trade up We need to draft a player that can step on the field and contribute right a way.

03-24-2008, 10:25 AM	#9
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Draft Possiblity - Trade up You have to figure the brain trust has every scenario ready and would pull the trigger on a deal if it was do-able. Let's face it, moving up and getting Dorsey instead of Cromartie is like getting Will Smith instead of Jason Craft. As far as NE needing the same D players, I think they are worse off in the defensive backfield. Belichek is a "genius", but I would not want to be in his position where he has to blow a #7 overall on DRC, especially when DRC will struggle to start his rookie year.

03-24-2008, 10:33 AM	#10
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Draft Possiblity - Trade up The ONLY person I think worthy of trading up to get would be McFadden. There are more than capable DT's that could be available in the 2nd round (granted they are still on the board). I just hope the Saints don't botch this one by doing so. Stand pat or trade down. That is all they should do.