Dorsey, Dorsey, Dorsey...

saintsfan1976 · 04-02-2008, 06:37 AM

Originally Posted by FireVenturi

I will save everybody the trouble, we wont be able to move up to #2 and atl will take him at 3. Sorry, I know it sux but thats how i see it.

Atlanta's not going to pass on a RB or QB "of the future".

Euphoria · 04-02-2008, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Atlanta's not going to pass on a RB or QB "of the future".

I have to agree with this... in fact I have GD going to KC at this point.

papz · 04-02-2008, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Atlanta's not going to pass on a RB or QB "of the future".

Well Atlanta just signed Michael Turner to a lengthy and lucrative contract to go along with Jerious Norwood. I highly doubt they're going to select McFadden. Quarterback on the other hand might be a different story. I don't view Matt Ryan as a franchise quarterback that will turn that organization around. I can see them passing on Ryan and wait for a Henne, Brohm, or Flacco in the second.

SaintPauly · 04-02-2008, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Well Atlanta just signed Michael Turner to a lengthy and lucrative contract to go along with Jerious Norwood. I highly doubt they're going to select McFadden. Quarterback on the other hand might be a different story. I don't view Matt Ryan as a franchise quarterback that will turn that organization around. I can see them passing on Ryan and wait for a Henne, Brohm, or Flacco in the second.

Michael Turner had the luxury of a good offensive line in San Diego, which is something Atlanta doesn't have, as you can see by the numbers Norwood put up last season.

Atlanta is a rebuilder, in every sense of the word. That offense is attrocious, and to be honest, the defense isn't much better. If I were on defense, I wouldn't want to play for a team, that is so bad offensively, that I'm going to be on the field 75% of every game we play next season. Dorsey will get worn down fast on a team like this.

stockman311 · 04-01-2008, 05:10 PM

I'd much rather trade up with Baltimore at #8 to get ahead of Cincy at #9 and snag Ellis. I think he will be every bit as good as Dorsey with a much less expensive price tag up front. I think everyone has Ellis locked with Cincy at #9. We know Baltimore wants a QB and would rather pick Ryan at 10 than at 8. How much do we have to give up to Baltimore to move up 2 spots?

pakowitz · 04-01-2008, 05:27 PM

based on the value chart, its only 100 point difference from 8 to 10.. that would about a 4th round pick.. which we dont have this year since we used it in the vilma trade

Champ Kind · 04-01-2008, 06:28 PM

I didn't realize that. My bad.

Champ Kind · 04-01-2008, 06:53 PM

Well, the highest paid DT in the league is Tommy Kelly from Oakland, and he has a 7 year/50mil deal with 18mil guaranteed.
I don't think Miami or St. Louis will get him for financial reasons.

Would Atlanta pick him at Joe Thomas's deal 5 year/42mil with 23mil guaranteed which would make him the highest paid DT in the game.

Would Oakland pick him at Gaines Adams deal 6year/46mil with 18 guaranteed which would pretty much match the aforementioned DT Tommy Kelly on the same team.

Money Talks sometimes.
I really think Atlanta will take him.

SaintPauly · 04-01-2008, 11:29 PM

atlanta has soooo many needs though. its not like they even have a descent QB. not to mention they lost their top cb to oakland. i just dont know if dt, should be their biggest concern. if any team NEEDS to go offense its ATL. hands down.

SaintPauly · 04-02-2008, 04:39 AM

Bottom line is, that you don't build a team, around a defensive tackle. Even if he goes to Atlanta, that franchise will not be sniffing the play offs anytime soon. If quarterback is their most glaring need, then they would be idiots not to take one. Or how about wide reciever? Or offensive lineman? They need someone on the field that can score points, and after their recent "garage sale", of just about every player they had who was worth a crap on either side of the ball, their general manager needs to be thinking offense, for pretty much this entire draft. Just my ten cents.

04-02-2008, 06:37 AM	#1
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,972 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Dorsey, Dorsey, Dorsey... Originally Posted by FireVenturi I will save everybody the trouble, we wont be able to move up to #2 and atl will take him at 3. Sorry, I know it sux but thats how i see it. Atlanta's not going to pass on a RB or QB "of the future".

04-02-2008, 02:35 PM	#3
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,768	Re: Dorsey, Dorsey, Dorsey... Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Atlanta's not going to pass on a RB or QB "of the future". Well Atlanta just signed Michael Turner to a lengthy and lucrative contract to go along with Jerious Norwood. I highly doubt they're going to select McFadden. Quarterback on the other hand might be a different story. I don't view Matt Ryan as a franchise quarterback that will turn that organization around. I can see them passing on Ryan and wait for a Henne, Brohm, or Flacco in the second.

04-02-2008, 05:46 PM	#4
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Dorsey, Dorsey, Dorsey... Originally Posted by papz Well Atlanta just signed Michael Turner to a lengthy and lucrative contract to go along with Jerious Norwood. I highly doubt they're going to select McFadden. Quarterback on the other hand might be a different story. I don't view Matt Ryan as a franchise quarterback that will turn that organization around. I can see them passing on Ryan and wait for a Henne, Brohm, or Flacco in the second. Michael Turner had the luxury of a good offensive line in San Diego, which is something Atlanta doesn't have, as you can see by the numbers Norwood put up last season. Atlanta is a rebuilder, in every sense of the word. That offense is attrocious, and to be honest, the defense isn't much better. If I were on defense, I wouldn't want to play for a team, that is so bad offensively, that I'm going to be on the field 75% of every game we play next season. Dorsey will get worn down fast on a team like this.
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04-01-2008, 05:10 PM	#5
stockman311 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,137	Re: Dorsey, Dorsey, Dorsey... I'd much rather trade up with Baltimore at #8 to get ahead of Cincy at #9 and snag Ellis. I think he will be every bit as good as Dorsey with a much less expensive price tag up front. I think everyone has Ellis locked with Cincy at #9. We know Baltimore wants a QB and would rather pick Ryan at 10 than at 8. How much do we have to give up to Baltimore to move up 2 spots?

04-01-2008, 05:27 PM	#6
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Re: Dorsey, Dorsey, Dorsey... based on the value chart, its only 100 point difference from 8 to 10.. that would about a 4th round pick.. which we dont have this year since we used it in the vilma trade

04-02-2008, 12:53 PM	#2
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Dorsey, Dorsey, Dorsey... Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Atlanta's not going to pass on a RB or QB "of the future". I have to agree with this... in fact I have GD going to KC at this point.

04-01-2008, 06:28 PM	#7
Champ Kind Nachooooooooooo Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Shreveport Posts: 71	Re: Dorsey, Dorsey, Dorsey... I didn't realize that. My bad.

04-01-2008, 06:53 PM	#8
Champ Kind Nachooooooooooo Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Shreveport Posts: 71	Re: Dorsey, Dorsey, Dorsey... Well, the highest paid DT in the league is Tommy Kelly from Oakland, and he has a 7 year/50mil deal with 18mil guaranteed. I don't think Miami or St. Louis will get him for financial reasons. Would Atlanta pick him at Joe Thomas's deal 5 year/42mil with 23mil guaranteed which would make him the highest paid DT in the game. Would Oakland pick him at Gaines Adams deal 6year/46mil with 18 guaranteed which would pretty much match the aforementioned DT Tommy Kelly on the same team. Money Talks sometimes. I really think Atlanta will take him.

04-01-2008, 11:29 PM	#9
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Dorsey, Dorsey, Dorsey... atlanta has soooo many needs though. its not like they even have a descent QB. not to mention they lost their top cb to oakland. i just dont know if dt, should be their biggest concern. if any team NEEDS to go offense its ATL. hands down.

04-02-2008, 04:39 AM	#10
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Dorsey, Dorsey, Dorsey... Bottom line is, that you don't build a team, around a defensive tackle. Even if he goes to Atlanta, that franchise will not be sniffing the play offs anytime soon. If quarterback is their most glaring need, then they would be idiots not to take one. Or how about wide reciever? Or offensive lineman? They need someone on the field that can score points, and after their recent "garage sale", of just about every player they had who was worth a crap on either side of the ball, their general manager needs to be thinking offense, for pretty much this entire draft. Just my ten cents.
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