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Rsanders24 04-02-2008 09:15 PM

Will Rivers move up the board?
 
After the USC Pro-day one would think that Rivers might just shoot up the board. He ran a 4.58 in the 40 and jumped over 40 inches in the vertical. With N.E.'s LB's getting up in age and the Bengals also needing defensive help in the front 7 will he be drafted before we pick? After watching his Pro-day I wouldn't mind seeing him in Black and Gold.

QBREES9 04-02-2008 09:44 PM

Re: Will Rivers move up the board?
 
With the 10th pick in the draft the NEW ORLEANS SAINTS pick keith Rivers LB USC.

MatthewT 04-02-2008 10:19 PM

Re: Will Rivers move up the board?
 
It looks like Rivers will be there for the taking at 10. Then again, that kind of workout is impressive. He may indeed have boosted his draft position and go before the 10 spot. Running a sub 4.6 is just sick for a big linebacker! Heck, with that kind of speed he could easily keep up with most running backs swinging out of the backfield on passing plays.

TheDeuce 04-02-2008 11:07 PM

Re: Will Rivers move up the board?
 
I'm all for taking Rivers if we don't get Ellis. The guy brings a type of athleticism that Shanle doesn't.

lsutigerfan 04-03-2008 12:23 AM

Re: Will Rivers move up the board?
 
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Originally Posted by Rsanders24 (Post 160238)
After the USC Pro-day one would think that Rivers might just shoot up the board. He ran a 4.58 in the 40 and jumped over 40 inches in the vertical. With N.E.'s LB's getting up in age and the Bengals also needing defensive help in the front 7 will he be drafted before we pick? After watching his Pro-day I wouldn't mind seeing him in Black and Gold.

If the Bangels take Rivers that means theres a better chance Ellis falls to us.

rjakapeanut 04-03-2008 12:57 AM

Re: Will Rivers move up the board?
 
I honestly don't care. I would rather have DRC or Ellis, but if we have to take Rivers I'm fine with that too, ya know.

hopefully the Bengals take him and something happens and we get Ellis.

hagan714 04-03-2008 07:17 AM

Re: Will Rivers move up the board?
 
Maybe. after the top 6 there is a drop off. He is by no means as talented as the last three years of LBs taken in the top ten. He does not belong there but with this class he gets a big cash break.

papz 04-03-2008 08:30 AM

Re: Will Rivers move up the board?
 
Will Rivers move up the draft boards? I'd say the answer to that is no. He was already projected as the top linebacker in the draft and a possible top 10 pick. I don't know how much further he could move up... he's definitely not going top 5 that's for sure. And if Gholston drops a bit, not top 7 either. He's right where he's been projected to go... he just solidified it with his Pro Day workout.

Euphoria 04-03-2008 11:04 AM

Re: Will Rivers move up the board?
 
I don't see him moving up either. I agree with #10 assestment. What I notice to is that teams like him because they feel he is the safest bet outside the top 6 picks.

I read somewheres that he is a defineate 15-20 on the boards and going to be a the most consistant performer in the NFL. In other words you wanna make a safe pick outside that top 6 Rivers is your guy.

I am also convience that most teams have made up their minds and the boards are set this time of year. Its only media and fans who play with and try and predict whats going to happend and all that can happen that day. I mean these draft picks have played all the football they are going to play nothing more to put to tape, its done. Anything they do now is second guessing and that is never good. Who cares what your 40 speed is or high how you can jump its a matter how you translated that speed and agilities on the field. Its done. Whatever it is its done.

gptsaintsfan 04-03-2008 03:39 PM

Re: Will Rivers move up the board?
 
Is it possible rivers can move up the board? yes. By how much is the question. I feel pretty certain rivers goes to the Saints at #10. However, I have seen mocks with him going to Cincy at 9. I don't see Rivers going higher than 9 imo. I think the excellent Pro-Day further warrants the Saints selecting him at 10 as expected. I am thinking that Cincy will grab him first leaving us with an open-ended decision on where to go with the pick. Mendenhall, Clady, or a CB.

Rivers is a decisive selection. It would be hard to argue that he will not perform well in the NFL. There is security with the pick and not much scrutiny. However, any other pick from a saints standpoint will come with some level of scrutiny. I hope for the sake of the organization and this forum that rivers is there. Everyone here has a differing opinion on who we should select if rivers, ellis, and dorsey are gone off the board. Time will tell. But it should be interesting.

I disagree on the point that teams have solidified there boards on 3 Apr. True, there is no more film to gain. But pro days and personal workouts are still taking place.

papz 04-03-2008 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by gptsaintsfan (Post 160303)
I disagree on the point that teams have solidified there boards on 3 Apr. True, there is no more film to gain. But pro days and personal workouts are still taking place.

Who are you disagreeing with... because no one said that.

LordOfEntropy 04-03-2008 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gptsaintsfan (Post 160303)
I disagree on the point that teams have solidified there boards on 3 Apr. True, there is no more film to gain. But pro days and personal workouts are still taking place.

Also unexpected injuries, car wrecks, lawsuits, stabbings, DUI's, arrests, and reports of steroid abuse as well.

gptsaintsfan 04-03-2008 04:12 PM

Re: Will Rivers move up the board?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 160277)
I am also convience that most teams have made up their minds and the boards are set this time of year. Its only media and fans who play with and try and predict whats going to happend and all that can happen that day. I mean these draft picks have played all the football they are going to play nothing more to put to tape, its done. Anything they do now is second guessing and that is never good. Who cares what your 40 speed is or high how you can jump its a matter how you translated that speed and agilities on the field. Its done. Whatever it is its done.

Unless I misinterpreted this statement by Euphoria, I see him talking about draft boards being set this time of year (granted he didn't say 3 april but this is the topic imo). At the end of the statement he writes, "It's done. Whatever it is it's done." I take that as saying teams know right now (Apr 3) without any debate who they are selecting on 26 and 27 april. I am just saying there is still alot of hands-on evaluation that are to take place so to say these teams are locked into a pick is a little far-fetched.

Thanks for the post papz.

papz 04-03-2008 04:24 PM

Re: Will Rivers move up the board?
 
Actually I thought you were referring to my post... my bad. I see why you made that statement.

Euphoria 04-03-2008 05:58 PM

Re: Will Rivers move up the board?
 
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Originally Posted by papz (Post 160309)
Who are you disagreeing with... because no one said that.

I think I said something similar to that but don't think word for word. And I say that I don't think the that teams boards change all that much. The reason being if you go to the past drafts and look at some of the Mocks early after the season and then on draft day there wasn't much change. If you see them through out that period there was a lot of up and down movements.

I strongly feel teams are pretty much locked in now what they want and who they want. Its just a matter of will that player be there when they pick.

THe media such as Kiper and other outlets all change and make adjustments... why??? well I'll tell ya. To get goobers like us to read and buy more... post more so they can show there advertisers "look viewers", advertise here with us.

There isn't anything more they can get from a player that hasn't already been documented and they have been compiling the info for a long time its done they know there boards and preparing senieros on what might happen before they pick but they know. They are locked.

This is mostly pre-draft and media crap hype.

HUSKER 04-07-2008 09:26 PM

Re: Will Rivers move up the board?
 
Unless a dt falls which I'm not sure about taking one this high, because of alot of failures in the top 10. Rivers is the best pick with a deep class of cb's and the ones we already have. I think with the improvement of de depth and the new lb's (even better with Rivers) the Dbs will be better and the defense downright scary.


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