Might Chris Long fall to Saints

winmill1 · 04-14-2008, 02:41 PM

This was posted on Pro Football Talk Monday Morning one liners-

Could USC LB Keith Rivers really be drafted before Virginia DE Chris Long?

This raises the possibility of Chris Long, Ellis, Dorsey falling to us. I think this would be better if one of them fell to us. It would address more of a need. I definitely think 10 is too early to take a corner.Here is the link

Rick Gosselin's NFL mock draft (4/11) | Sports News | Dallas Morning News | News for Dallas, Texas

TheDeuce · 04-14-2008, 02:45 PM

Absolutely not. Chris Long is as close to a top-5 lock as anybody else in this draft.

stockman311 · 04-14-2008, 02:50 PM

Dude,
April Fools is over. Long goes one or two, but definitely not past the Raiders.

Euphoria · 04-14-2008, 02:54 PM

HA funny

winmill1 · 04-14-2008, 02:57 PM

Ellis would be the one that would have a remote chance to fall to us. Your right Long won't fall. With River's super impressive Pro day he may jump from top 10 to top 5. I just wouldn't pick Leodis Mckelvin at 10. If Rivers and the others aren't there I would trade out of the pick.

stockman311 · 04-14-2008, 03:32 PM

I think the Chiefs HAVE to get a LT in this draft. I don't think they have anyone on their roster that can play LT at this time. They were worst in the league in sacks allowed and rushing yds per game last year. I believe out of all of the teams in the top 5 they will be the most likely to trade down with us with us giving up the least amount to do it.
If the draft shapes out like this don't be the least bit suprised to see us move up to 5.
1) Miami: Jake Long
2) St. Louis: Chris Long
3) Atlanta: Matt Ryan
4) Oakland: McFadden
5) New Orleans: Dorsey
6) New York: Gholston
7) Patriots: McKelvin, Cromartie, or Rivers
8) Ravens: McKelvin, Cromarite, or Ellis
9) Bengals: Rivers or Ellis
10) Kansas City: Clady

Let's just say I really really think this might happen. Not sure what we would have to give up to move up 5 spots, but given the Chiefs are desperate to move out if Jake Long is gone, I think we could probably fleece them for a lot less than it would normally take.

Oakland is the key in this scenario. If they were to take Dorsey over McFadden then all this is moot. I think Al Davis is crazy though, and is enamored with speed and thus will pass on the better prospect for the one that puts more butts in seats and runs faster.

Champ Kind · 04-14-2008, 04:02 PM

This guy usually does good mock drafts from what I've read.
This is horrible.
Chris Johnson in the first?
Brian Brohm to the Jaguars?
Fred Davis to the Titans at 24?
Giants take Malcolm Kelly?

I thought a few of the others were in poor order, but these really stick out.

pakowitz · 04-14-2008, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by stockman311

I think the Chiefs HAVE to get a LT in this draft. I don't think they have anyone on their roster that can play LT at this time. They were worst in the league in sacks allowed and rushing yds per game last year. I believe out of all of the teams in the top 5 they will be the most likely to trade down with us with us giving up the least amount to do it.
If the draft shapes out like this don't be the least bit suprised to see us move up to 5.
1) Miami: Jake Long
2) St. Louis: Chris Long
3) Atlanta: Matt Ryan
4) Oakland: McFadden
5) New Orleans: Dorsey
6) New York: Gholston
7) Patriots: McKelvin, Cromartie, or Rivers
8) Ravens: McKelvin, Cromarite, or Ellis
9) Bengals: Rivers or Ellis
10) Kansas City: Clady

Let's just say I really really think this might happen. Not sure what we would have to give up to move up 5 spots, but given the Chiefs are desperate to move out if Jake Long is gone, I think we could probably fleece them for a lot less than it would normally take.

Oakland is the key in this scenario. If they were to take Dorsey over McFadden then all this is moot. I think Al Davis is crazy though, and is enamored with speed and thus will pass on the better prospect for the one that puts more butts in seats and runs faster.

Saints get #5 overall (1st round)

KC gets #10 overall (1st round) and the Saints 2nd round pick in 2009

Value totals given up...

N.O. pick 10 (1300 pts) + 2009 2nd rnd pick (400 pts) = 1700 pts
K.C. pick 5 (1700 pts) = 1700 pts

or

Saints get #5 overall (1st round) and #101 overall (4th round)

KC gets #10 overall (1st round) and #40 overall (2nd round)

Value Totals given up..

N.O. pick 10 (1300 pts) + pick 40 (500 pts) = 1800 pts
K.C. pick 5 (1700 pts) + pick 101 (96 pts) = 1796 pts

QBREES9 · 04-14-2008, 04:36 PM

No way in heck. Would love to see it happen but no way.

04-14-2008, 02:41 PM	#1
winmill1 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 426	Might Chris Long fall to Saints This was posted on Pro Football Talk Monday Morning one liners- Could USC LB Keith Rivers really be drafted before Virginia DE Chris Long? This raises the possibility of Chris Long, Ellis, Dorsey falling to us. I think this would be better if one of them fell to us. It would address more of a need. I definitely think 10 is too early to take a corner.Here is the link Rick Gosselin's NFL mock draft (4/11) \| Sports News \| Dallas Morning News \| News for Dallas, Texas
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04-14-2008, 02:45 PM	#2
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Re: Might Chris Long fall to Saints Absolutely not. Chris Long is as close to a top-5 lock as anybody else in this draft.
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04-14-2008, 02:50 PM	#3
stockman311 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,137	Re: Might Chris Long fall to Saints Dude, April Fools is over. Long goes one or two, but definitely not past the Raiders.

04-14-2008, 02:57 PM	#5
winmill1 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 426	Re: Might Chris Long fall to Saints Ellis would be the one that would have a remote chance to fall to us. Your right Long won't fall. With River's super impressive Pro day he may jump from top 10 to top 5. I just wouldn't pick Leodis Mckelvin at 10. If Rivers and the others aren't there I would trade out of the pick.
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04-14-2008, 03:32 PM	#6
stockman311 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,137	Re: Might Chris Long fall to Saints I think the Chiefs HAVE to get a LT in this draft. I don't think they have anyone on their roster that can play LT at this time. They were worst in the league in sacks allowed and rushing yds per game last year. I believe out of all of the teams in the top 5 they will be the most likely to trade down with us with us giving up the least amount to do it. If the draft shapes out like this don't be the least bit suprised to see us move up to 5. 1) Miami: Jake Long 2) St. Louis: Chris Long 3) Atlanta: Matt Ryan 4) Oakland: McFadden 5) New Orleans: Dorsey 6) New York: Gholston 7) Patriots: McKelvin, Cromartie, or Rivers 8) Ravens: McKelvin, Cromarite, or Ellis 9) Bengals: Rivers or Ellis 10) Kansas City: Clady Let's just say I really really think this might happen. Not sure what we would have to give up to move up 5 spots, but given the Chiefs are desperate to move out if Jake Long is gone, I think we could probably fleece them for a lot less than it would normally take. Oakland is the key in this scenario. If they were to take Dorsey over McFadden then all this is moot. I think Al Davis is crazy though, and is enamored with speed and thus will pass on the better prospect for the one that puts more butts in seats and runs faster.
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04-14-2008, 02:54 PM	#4
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Might Chris Long fall to Saints HA funny

04-14-2008, 04:02 PM	#7
Champ Kind Nachooooooooooo Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Shreveport Posts: 71	Re: Might Chris Long fall to Saints This guy usually does good mock drafts from what I've read. This is horrible. Chris Johnson in the first? Brian Brohm to the Jaguars? Fred Davis to the Titans at 24? Giants take Malcolm Kelly? I thought a few of the others were in poor order, but these really stick out.

04-14-2008, 04:25 PM	#8
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Re: Might Chris Long fall to Saints Originally Posted by stockman311 I think the Chiefs HAVE to get a LT in this draft. I don't think they have anyone on their roster that can play LT at this time. They were worst in the league in sacks allowed and rushing yds per game last year. I believe out of all of the teams in the top 5 they will be the most likely to trade down with us with us giving up the least amount to do it. If the draft shapes out like this don't be the least bit suprised to see us move up to 5. 1) Miami: Jake Long 2) St. Louis: Chris Long 3) Atlanta: Matt Ryan 4) Oakland: McFadden 5) New Orleans: Dorsey 6) New York: Gholston 7) Patriots: McKelvin, Cromartie, or Rivers 8) Ravens: McKelvin, Cromarite, or Ellis 9) Bengals: Rivers or Ellis 10) Kansas City: Clady Let's just say I really really think this might happen. Not sure what we would have to give up to move up 5 spots, but given the Chiefs are desperate to move out if Jake Long is gone, I think we could probably fleece them for a lot less than it would normally take. Oakland is the key in this scenario. If they were to take Dorsey over McFadden then all this is moot. I think Al Davis is crazy though, and is enamored with speed and thus will pass on the better prospect for the one that puts more butts in seats and runs faster. Saints get #5 overall (1st round) KC gets #10 overall (1st round) and the Saints 2nd round pick in 2009 Value totals given up... N.O. pick 10 (1300 pts) + 2009 2nd rnd pick (400 pts) = 1700 pts K.C. pick 5 (1700 pts) = 1700 pts or Saints get #5 overall (1st round) and #101 overall (4th round) KC gets #10 overall (1st round) and #40 overall (2nd round) Value Totals given up.. N.O. pick 10 (1300 pts) + pick 40 (500 pts) = 1800 pts K.C. pick 5 (1700 pts) + pick 101 (96 pts) = 1796 pts

04-14-2008, 04:36 PM	#9
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: Might Chris Long fall to Saints No way in heck. Would love to see it happen but no way.