1st & 2nd for dorsey or 1st & 3rd for ellis?

jtsaints · 04-21-2008, 10:41 AM

Which would you rather go for?

Euphoria · 04-21-2008, 10:59 AM

Well hell I'd settle for them just give the pick to us for nothing... its going to be and has to be swaping first round and us giving up our second round pick for Dorsey. DORSEY has to be the guy. Getting Dorsey is a big deal, politically, location, and which one won the National Championship.

lsutigerfan · 04-21-2008, 11:13 AM

I'll give up a second for Dorsey thank you very much.

biloxi-indian · 04-21-2008, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by jtsaints

Which would you rather go for?

Neither. Trade back for an additional pick in the later rounds! There are DT who are serviceable in the 2nd round.

lsutigerfan · 04-21-2008, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by biloxi-indian

Neither. Trade back for an additional pick in the later rounds! There are DT who are serviceable in the 2nd round.

We dont need a serviceable DT we need a star DT and in my opinion that Glen Dorsey.

pakowitz · 04-21-2008, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by biloxi-indian

Neither. Trade back for an additional pick in the later rounds! There are DT who are serviceable in the 2nd round.

the DTs we have now are "servicable" we dont need more of those types of DTs.. we need a playmaker in the middle..

biloxi-indian · 04-21-2008, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by pakowitz

the DTs we have now are "servicable" we dont need more of those types of DTs.. we need a playmaker in the middle..

Seek a trade with Philly for #19 and Lito or Philly's second round pick. #10 is valued at 1300, #19 is valued at 875 which leaves 425 which is almost equivilent to Philly's 2nd round pick at #49 or 410 points.

The Saints end up with #19, #40, Lito or #49.

At #19 maybe LB;Mayo, CB;Talib, S;Phillips,

Servicable DT's would be Laws, Sims, Harrison with #40. At #49 (if Lito is excluded) CB's, Cason, Porter, or TE Keller or use #49 for Shockey if still available.

Numerous options. My belief is Benson is cheap, and I mean really cheap and will not want to pay #2 $$$$ for Dorsey.

That's my opinion, and am sticking with it!

We all will find out soon enough...come on Saturday.

rjakapeanut · 04-21-2008, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by biloxi-indian

Seek a trade with Philly for #19 and Lito or Philly's second round pick. #10 is valued at 1300, #19 is valued at 875 which leaves 425 which is almost equivilent to Philly's 2nd round pick at #49 or 410 points.

The Saints end up with #19, #40, Lito or #49.

At #19 maybe LB;Mayo, CB;Talib, S;Phillips,

Servicable DT's would be Laws, Sims, Harrison with #40. At #49 (if Lito is excluded) CB's, Cason, Porter, or TE Keller or use #49 for Shockey if still available.

Numerous options. My belief is Benson is cheap, and I mean really cheap and will not want to pay #2 $$$$ for Dorsey.

That's my opinion, and am sticking with it! We all will find out soon enough...come on Saturday.

you're wrong on this one imho.

first of all I'm getting sick of the "benson is cheap" nonsense. you have no idea if he is or isn't cheap, that just seems like the trendy thing to say these days and we really have no reason to say things like that. he paid #2 money to Reggie, we paid top dollar for Brees (which was at the time a huge risk), and this organization has shown that it'll do whatever it takes money wise to get the best team together.

anyway, I would prefer to send our 1st and 2nd to the Rams for the #2 and get Dorsey. then, I'd like to send a conditional pick next year for Shockey. I'd probably guarantee a 2nd rounder, and if he hits some performance incentives (lets say a pro bowl type season) they get a first. I don't think they could resist a possible 1st rounder for him.

in the third we get a solid LB/CB and in the 5th we'll see if any of the RBs drop.

biloxi-indian · 04-21-2008, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by rjakapeanut

you're wrong on this one imho.

first of all I'm getting sick of the "benson is cheap" nonsense. you have no idea if he is or isn't cheap, that just seems like the trendy thing to say these days and we really have no reason to say things like that. he paid #2 money to Reggie, we paid top dollar for Brees (which was at the time a huge risk), and this organization has shown that it'll do whatever it takes money wise to get the best team together.

anyway, I would prefer to send our 1st and 2nd to the Rams for the #2 and get Dorsey. then, I'd like to send a conditional pick next year for Shockey. I'd probably guarantee a 2nd rounder, and if he hits some performance incentives (lets say a pro bowl type season) they get a first. I don't think they could resist a possible 1st rounder for him.

in the third we get a solid LB/CB and in the 5th we'll see if any of the RBs drop.

Tom is that u?

Sorry u are getting sick...take an asprin.

As for your preference...that is why some people like vanilla and some like strawberry! Different strokes for different folks.

Euphoria · 04-21-2008, 12:01 PM

servicable??? we'd be 7-9 again this year.

I don't care to have servicable players from a weak draft class. I'll pass get me elite/special players in this case. I was on the bandwagon of trading back myself but the more I look at the draft the more I am against it... trade up or stay put.

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lsutigerfan 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: born And raised in NOLA, now live in Los Angeles Posts: 811	Re: 1st & 2nd for dorsey or 1st & 3rd for ellis? Originally Posted by biloxi-indian Neither. Trade back for an additional pick in the later rounds! There are DT who are serviceable in the 2nd round. We dont need a serviceable DT we need a star DT and in my opinion that Glen Dorsey.

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pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Re: 1st & 2nd for dorsey or 1st & 3rd for ellis? Originally Posted by biloxi-indian Neither. Trade back for an additional pick in the later rounds! There are DT who are serviceable in the 2nd round. the DTs we have now are "servicable" we dont need more of those types of DTs.. we need a playmaker in the middle..

04-21-2008, 11:45 AM	#4
biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	Re: 1st & 2nd for dorsey or 1st & 3rd for ellis? Originally Posted by jtsaints Which would you rather go for? Neither. Trade back for an additional pick in the later rounds! There are DT who are serviceable in the 2nd round.

04-21-2008, 01:58 PM	#7
biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	Re: 1st & 2nd for dorsey or 1st & 3rd for ellis? Originally Posted by pakowitz the DTs we have now are "servicable" we dont need more of those types of DTs.. we need a playmaker in the middle.. Seek a trade with Philly for #19 and Lito or Philly's second round pick. #10 is valued at 1300, #19 is valued at 875 which leaves 425 which is almost equivilent to Philly's 2nd round pick at #49 or 410 points. The Saints end up with #19, #40, Lito or #49. At #19 maybe LB;Mayo, CB;Talib, S;Phillips, Servicable DT's would be Laws, Sims, Harrison with #40. At #49 (if Lito is excluded) CB's, Cason, Porter, or TE Keller or use #49 for Shockey if still available. Numerous options. My belief is Benson is cheap, and I mean really cheap and will not want to pay #2 $$$$ for Dorsey. That's my opinion, and am sticking with it! We all will find out soon enough...come on Saturday.
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04-21-2008, 02:38 PM	#8
rjakapeanut 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 204	Re: 1st & 2nd for dorsey or 1st & 3rd for ellis? Originally Posted by biloxi-indian Seek a trade with Philly for #19 and Lito or Philly's second round pick. #10 is valued at 1300, #19 is valued at 875 which leaves 425 which is almost equivilent to Philly's 2nd round pick at #49 or 410 points. The Saints end up with #19, #40, Lito or #49. At #19 maybe LB;Mayo, CB;Talib, S;Phillips, Servicable DT's would be Laws, Sims, Harrison with #40. At #49 (if Lito is excluded) CB's, Cason, Porter, or TE Keller or use #49 for Shockey if still available. Numerous options. My belief is Benson is cheap, and I mean really cheap and will not want to pay #2 $$$$ for Dorsey. That's my opinion, and am sticking with it! We all will find out soon enough...come on Saturday. you're wrong on this one imho. first of all I'm getting sick of the "benson is cheap" nonsense. you have no idea if he is or isn't cheap, that just seems like the trendy thing to say these days and we really have no reason to say things like that. he paid #2 money to Reggie, we paid top dollar for Brees (which was at the time a huge risk), and this organization has shown that it'll do whatever it takes money wise to get the best team together. anyway, I would prefer to send our 1st and 2nd to the Rams for the #2 and get Dorsey. then, I'd like to send a conditional pick next year for Shockey. I'd probably guarantee a 2nd rounder, and if he hits some performance incentives (lets say a pro bowl type season) they get a first. I don't think they could resist a possible 1st rounder for him. in the third we get a solid LB/CB and in the 5th we'll see if any of the RBs drop.
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04-21-2008, 04:27 PM	#9
biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	Re: 1st & 2nd for dorsey or 1st & 3rd for ellis? Originally Posted by rjakapeanut you're wrong on this one imho. first of all I'm getting sick of the "benson is cheap" nonsense. you have no idea if he is or isn't cheap, that just seems like the trendy thing to say these days and we really have no reason to say things like that. he paid #2 money to Reggie, we paid top dollar for Brees (which was at the time a huge risk), and this organization has shown that it'll do whatever it takes money wise to get the best team together. anyway, I would prefer to send our 1st and 2nd to the Rams for the #2 and get Dorsey. then, I'd like to send a conditional pick next year for Shockey. I'd probably guarantee a 2nd rounder, and if he hits some performance incentives (lets say a pro bowl type season) they get a first. I don't think they could resist a possible 1st rounder for him. in the third we get a solid LB/CB and in the 5th we'll see if any of the RBs drop. Tom is that u? Sorry u are getting sick...take an asprin. As for your preference...that is why some people like vanilla and some like strawberry! Different strokes for different folks.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: 1st & 2nd for dorsey or 1st & 3rd for ellis? servicable??? we'd be 7-9 again this year. I don't care to have servicable players from a weak draft class. I'll pass get me elite/special players in this case. I was on the bandwagon of trading back myself but the more I look at the draft the more I am against it... trade up or stay put.