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jtsaints 04-21-2008 10:41 AM
1st & 2nd for dorsey or 1st & 3rd for ellis?
 
Which would you rather go for?

Euphoria 04-21-2008 10:59 AM
Re: 1st & 2nd for dorsey or 1st & 3rd for ellis?
 
Well hell I'd settle for them just give the pick to us for nothing... its going to be and has to be swaping first round and us giving up our second round pick for Dorsey. DORSEY has to be the guy. Getting Dorsey is a big deal, politically, location, and which one won the National Championship.

lsutigerfan 04-21-2008 11:13 AM
Re: 1st & 2nd for dorsey or 1st & 3rd for ellis?
 
I'll give up a second for Dorsey thank you very much.

biloxi-indian 04-21-2008 11:45 AM
Re: 1st & 2nd for dorsey or 1st & 3rd for ellis?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jtsaints (Post 162285)
Which would you rather go for?
Neither. Trade back for an additional pick in the later rounds! There are DT who are serviceable in the 2nd round.

lsutigerfan 04-21-2008 11:50 AM
Re: 1st & 2nd for dorsey or 1st & 3rd for ellis?
 
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Originally Posted by biloxi-indian (Post 162296)
Neither. Trade back for an additional pick in the later rounds! There are DT who are serviceable in the 2nd round.
We dont need a serviceable DT we need a star DT and in my opinion that Glen Dorsey.

Euphoria 04-21-2008 12:01 PM
Re: 1st & 2nd for dorsey or 1st & 3rd for ellis?
 
servicable??? we'd be 7-9 again this year.

I don't care to have servicable players from a weak draft class. I'll pass get me elite/special players in this case. I was on the bandwagon of trading back myself but the more I look at the draft the more I am against it... trade up or stay put.

DeadmaN 04-21-2008 12:14 PM
Re: 1st & 2nd for dorsey or 1st & 3rd for ellis?
 
you know with all the talk about who should go first and who is better then who and who we should or shouldn't go after in the draft

well this is just a little food for thought...

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BRSaintsFan 04-21-2008 12:14 PM
Re: 1st & 2nd for dorsey or 1st & 3rd for ellis?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 162299)
servicable??? we'd be 7-9 again this year.

I don't care to have servicable players from a weak draft class. I'll pass get me elite/special players in this case. I was on the bandwagon of trading back myself but the more I look at the draft the more I am against it... trade up or stay put.
DITTO!!

QBREES9 04-21-2008 12:20 PM
Re: 1st & 2nd for dorsey or 1st & 3rd for ellis?
 
we need a big time player, and that just maybe Dorsey. Swap first round picks

stockman311 04-21-2008 12:40 PM
Re: 1st & 2nd for dorsey or 1st & 3rd for ellis?
 
I'd say 1st and 3rd for Ellis. Second and 6th for Shockey and call it a Draft.

pakowitz 04-21-2008 12:43 PM
Re: 1st & 2nd for dorsey or 1st & 3rd for ellis?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by biloxi-indian (Post 162296)
Neither. Trade back for an additional pick in the later rounds! There are DT who are serviceable in the 2nd round.
the DTs we have now are "servicable" we dont need more of those types of DTs.. we need a playmaker in the middle..

gandhi1007 04-21-2008 01:34 PM
Re: 1st & 2nd for dorsey or 1st & 3rd for ellis?
 
Dorsey is the best defensive player in this draft, he's from Louisiana, won a national championship with Louisiana State University, & is one of the highest character guys in the draft. To me, this is a no brainer....give up the 1st & 2nd for Dorsey!

biloxi-indian 04-21-2008 01:58 PM
Re: 1st & 2nd for dorsey or 1st & 3rd for ellis?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pakowitz (Post 162307)
the DTs we have now are "servicable" we dont need more of those types of DTs.. we need a playmaker in the middle..
Seek a trade with Philly for #19 and Lito or Philly's second round pick. #10 is valued at 1300, #19 is valued at 875 which leaves 425 which is almost equivilent to Philly's 2nd round pick at #49 or 410 points.

The Saints end up with #19, #40, Lito or #49.

At #19 maybe LB;Mayo, CB;Talib, S;Phillips,

Servicable DT's would be Laws, Sims, Harrison with #40. At #49 (if Lito is excluded) CB's, Cason, Porter, or TE Keller or use #49 for Shockey if still available.

Numerous options. My belief is Benson is cheap, and I mean really cheap and will not want to pay #2 $$$$ for Dorsey.

That's my opinion, and am sticking with it! :) We all will find out soon enough...come on Saturday.

rjakapeanut 04-21-2008 02:38 PM
Re: 1st & 2nd for dorsey or 1st & 3rd for ellis?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by biloxi-indian (Post 162318)
Seek a trade with Philly for #19 and Lito or Philly's second round pick. #10 is valued at 1300, #19 is valued at 875 which leaves 425 which is almost equivilent to Philly's 2nd round pick at #49 or 410 points.

The Saints end up with #19, #40, Lito or #49.

At #19 maybe LB;Mayo, CB;Talib, S;Phillips,

Servicable DT's would be Laws, Sims, Harrison with #40. At #49 (if Lito is excluded) CB's, Cason, Porter, or TE Keller or use #49 for Shockey if still available.

Numerous options. My belief is Benson is cheap, and I mean really cheap and will not want to pay #2 $$$$ for Dorsey.

That's my opinion, and am sticking with it! :) We all will find out soon enough...come on Saturday.
you're wrong on this one imho.

first of all I'm getting sick of the "benson is cheap" nonsense. you have no idea if he is or isn't cheap, that just seems like the trendy thing to say these days and we really have no reason to say things like that. he paid #2 money to Reggie, we paid top dollar for Brees (which was at the time a huge risk), and this organization has shown that it'll do whatever it takes money wise to get the best team together.

anyway, I would prefer to send our 1st and 2nd to the Rams for the #2 and get Dorsey. then, I'd like to send a conditional pick next year for Shockey. I'd probably guarantee a 2nd rounder, and if he hits some performance incentives (lets say a pro bowl type season) they get a first. I don't think they could resist a possible 1st rounder for him.

in the third we get a solid LB/CB and in the 5th we'll see if any of the RBs drop.

biloxi-indian 04-21-2008 04:27 PM
Re: 1st & 2nd for dorsey or 1st & 3rd for ellis?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rjakapeanut (Post 162324)
you're wrong on this one imho.

first of all I'm getting sick of the "benson is cheap" nonsense. you have no idea if he is or isn't cheap, that just seems like the trendy thing to say these days and we really have no reason to say things like that. he paid #2 money to Reggie, we paid top dollar for Brees (which was at the time a huge risk), and this organization has shown that it'll do whatever it takes money wise to get the best team together.

anyway, I would prefer to send our 1st and 2nd to the Rams for the #2 and get Dorsey. then, I'd like to send a conditional pick next year for Shockey. I'd probably guarantee a 2nd rounder, and if he hits some performance incentives (lets say a pro bowl type season) they get a first. I don't think they could resist a possible 1st rounder for him.

in the third we get a solid LB/CB and in the 5th we'll see if any of the RBs drop.
Tom is that u? :) Sorry u are getting sick...take an asprin.

As for your preference...that is why some people like vanilla and some like strawberry! Different strokes for different folks.


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