the rams are now on the clock.........

ssmitty · 04-22-2008, 04:48 PM

THE RAMS ARE ON THE CLOCK
Posted by Mike Florio on April 22, 2008, 12:59 p.m.
The St. Louis Rams are now free to negotiate with any incoming rookie. Except left tackle Jake Long. Because, according to Jay Glazer of FOXSports.com, Long has agreed to terms with the Miami Dolphins to become the No. 1 overall pick in the draft.

It’s a five-year deal, which might be one of the major concessions that the Dolphins had to make in order to hold down the total money to be paid to Long. Typically, the No. 1 overall pick signs a six-year deal.

Glazer says that Long is already in the building, for a press conference that apparently will start at 1:45 p.m. EDT.

There are many details to be discovered about this one, including whether linebacker/defensive end Vernon Gholston ever had a chance to take less than the amount that was accepted by Long. Since Long and Gholston are represented by the same firm, any efforts to leverage one player against the other likely never materialized — even though it would have been in Gholston’s best interests for a reverse bidding war to occur.

As it now stands, Gholston could slide out of the top five, and he’ll earn far less money than if he’d been the No. 1 overall pick.

For those of you who still don’t realize the extent of the conflict of interest that CAA had on this issue, think of it this way. Gholston’s agent should have been calling the Dolphins every five minutes, pimping his client and suggesting that he’d consider doing something less than Long’s deal in order to be the No. 1 overall pick. In turn, Long’s agent should have then been required to scramble in order to keep the Fins focused on his client.

But since both men are represented by the same agency, it most likely never happened. And, as we suspected, Gholston is the one who has gotten screwed.

Euphoria · 04-22-2008, 04:57 PM

This is one way to speed the draft day up!

andersen · 04-22-2008, 05:09 PM

If we could trade up to six to get him, the cost will be less than what the Rams want for Dorsey.

CantonLegend · 04-22-2008, 05:09 PM

im glad my michigan boy who was 2 time big-ten lineman of the year and was at one point looked at as being much better than joe thomas got his due....since then thomas has proven his ability in the nfl and was ranked higher going into last years draft but i still have hope for jake long....he will get his playing time and should start from game 1 until he decides he is done

Euphoria · 04-22-2008, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by andersen

If we could trade up to six to get him, the cost will be less than what the Rams want for Dorsey.

Dorsey will be gone before 6.

CantonLegend · 04-22-2008, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Dorsey will be gone before 6.

i agree...dorsey is a top 5 pick in all of the recent drafts

gandhi1007 · 04-22-2008, 07:10 PM

Dorsey is a top 3 pick...period. It will either be the Saints trading up to get him, the Rams, or the Falcons...but, he's gone by #3. I also hear that the Rams really like USC LB Keith Rivers & Tennessee LB Jarod Mayo. Being that one of these guys will be there at the #10 spot, it could help in the Saints moving up to that #2 spot they so covet. Personally...I'm all for trading 1st rounders & giving up our second...as long as the pick is Glen Dorsey. Quality is better than quantity!!! Now...If we make the deal & draft someone different, I would be pissed!

B_Dub_Saint · 04-22-2008, 11:17 PM

So are we not trying to negotiate a deal with the rams anymore?

hagan714 · 04-22-2008, 11:19 PM

We are talking to everyone about any thing. Players to vending contracts.

BRSaintsFan · 04-22-2008, 11:21 PM

Question: Being that the first pick is now set, does that increase the chances of us possibly making a deal with the rams before saturday? I would imagine that the rams would wait until the last possible second to pull the trigger on a trade and try to strongarm as much value as they can for the trade and use all of the time that they have. but wouldnt it be great if we could know before Saturday. And it would also cut down on about half of the recent posts in the forum.

04-22-2008, 04:48 PM	#1
ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879	the rams are now on the clock......... THE RAMS ARE ON THE CLOCK Posted by Mike Florio on April 22, 2008, 12:59 p.m. The St. Louis Rams are now free to negotiate with any incoming rookie. Except left tackle Jake Long. Because, according to Jay Glazer of FOXSports.com, Long has agreed to terms with the Miami Dolphins to become the No. 1 overall pick in the draft. It’s a five-year deal, which might be one of the major concessions that the Dolphins had to make in order to hold down the total money to be paid to Long. Typically, the No. 1 overall pick signs a six-year deal. Glazer says that Long is already in the building, for a press conference that apparently will start at 1:45 p.m. EDT. There are many details to be discovered about this one, including whether linebacker/defensive end Vernon Gholston ever had a chance to take less than the amount that was accepted by Long. Since Long and Gholston are represented by the same firm, any efforts to leverage one player against the other likely never materialized — even though it would have been in Gholston’s best interests for a reverse bidding war to occur. As it now stands, Gholston could slide out of the top five, and he’ll earn far less money than if he’d been the No. 1 overall pick. For those of you who still don’t realize the extent of the conflict of interest that CAA had on this issue, think of it this way. Gholston’s agent should have been calling the Dolphins every five minutes, pimping his client and suggesting that he’d consider doing something less than Long’s deal in order to be the No. 1 overall pick. In turn, Long’s agent should have then been required to scramble in order to keep the Fins focused on his client. But since both men are represented by the same agency, it most likely never happened. And, as we suspected, Gholston is the one who has gotten screwed.
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CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: the rams are now on the clock......... im glad my michigan boy who was 2 time big-ten lineman of the year and was at one point looked at as being much better than joe thomas got his due....since then thomas has proven his ability in the nfl and was ranked higher going into last years draft but i still have hope for jake long....he will get his playing time and should start from game 1 until he decides he is done

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: the rams are now on the clock......... Originally Posted by andersen If we could trade up to six to get him, the cost will be less than what the Rams want for Dorsey. Dorsey will be gone before 6.

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CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: the rams are now on the clock......... Originally Posted by Euphoria Dorsey will be gone before 6. i agree...dorsey is a top 5 pick in all of the recent drafts

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