will Payton groom Palko?

CantonLegend · 04-22-2008, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

QB's aren't hired to give lesson's. They are hired to be QB's and back up QB's. What Palko does with his time is up to him.

Palko signed on perhaps as a camp body. Don't get me wrong I like him... and I though he should have been on the roster last year in place of Martin. THey cut Palko last year so yes they will cut him again if they need to. He'll get cut at the start of the season and if no one picks him up he'll be put on the practice squad again. This will be the last year he can be kept on the practice squad if no one else picks him up that is.

QB's are hired to play....giving lessons is just the bonus that comes along with being a starter or a veteran....when u bring in a rookie they study, so to speak, under the vets....Palko has talent...plus the knowledge he'll gain from brunell and brees will push him into a starting role...if another team gets him he can and will start in the future for them

Euphoria · 04-22-2008, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

QB's are hired to play....giving lessons is just the bonus that comes along with being a starter or a veteran....when u bring in a rookie they study, so to speak, under the vets....Palko has talent...plus the knowledge he'll gain from brunell and brees will push him into a starting role...if another team gets him he can and will start in the future for them

Ok put aside your obvious man crush on him for a second and come back to reality. He was cut last year by the Saints. If they were so into him they wouldn't have done that. He was resigned because we need 4 QB's in camp. Based on Paytons past 2 seasons, he's keeping only 2 for the regular season... you tell me who is getting cut??? Yeah looks like Martin and Palko. Palko again gets signed to the practice squad (maybe). Martin could be signed back on at anytime if the sky falls on us during the season.

He isn't the future #1 QB at this time. I just don't see it at all.

You may also want to look back at Brett Farve's comments this past year... He also said he isn't a mentor. Its up to the QB to learn and all its not up to the other QB's to coach them up.

CantonLegend · 04-22-2008, 05:45 PM

while my man-crush is obvious...it is obvious also that payton will not give up on youth...he likes young players because they allow him to be more creative...sean payton is one of the nfl's best play designers...i know u think that they will have only 2 qbs its very possible that they could have 3.....we both agree that jamie is on his way out...the only descrepency is whether there will be a 3rd string qb or not

Euphoria · 04-22-2008, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

while my man-crush is obvious...it is obvious also that payton will not give up on youth...he likes young players because they allow him to be more creative...sean payton is one of the nfl's best play designers...i know u think that they will have only 2 qbs its very possible that they could have 3.....we both agree that jamie is on his way out...the only descrepency is whether there will be a 3rd string qb or not

I wouldn't say VERY POSSIBLE, but I would say anything is possible. The fact that you use youth to prove your point makes the statement not true at all. Martin is far from being YOUTHFUL and he has hung on to that #2 spot for a while now. I think Payton likes to have maturity in the back up position at QB, that is more true than your youth argument. Also the fact that Brunell is onboard and likely to be the #2 QB this season instead of Palko makes the youth point go out the window.

But I will agree that 'anything is possible'.

CantonLegend · 04-22-2008, 06:04 PM

i think that it was well worth it to pick up mark brunell as a backup....he is proven as a starter but because drew is better he wont start...given that mark's tank is almost empty i just think its more likely that they keep a 3rd qb...whether it be jamie martin or tyler palko is debatable....i agree with peanut tho....payton has a tendency to coach up younger players....he did it for romo who had question marks about whether he could start long term....palko is another no-name and could be just another romo rising through the saints depth chart

Euphoria · 04-22-2008, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

i think that it was well worth it to pick up mark brunell as a backup....he is proven as a starter but because drew is better he wont start...given that mark's tank is almost empty i just think its more likely that they keep a 3rd qb...whether it be jamie martin or tyler palko is debatable....i agree with peanut tho....payton has a tendency to coach up younger players....he did it for romo who had question marks about whether he could start long term....palko is another no-name and could be just another romo rising through the saints depth chart

Actually Payton is the one following in Tuna's footsteps. The Tuna didn't want Romo to start, wasn't ready. Perhpas starting the reasons he is gone and done in Dallas. Tuna kept to the older mature QB's over the younger ones... and this seems to be holding true for Payton.

If Payton was so deadset on 'grooming' a young QB he would be on the active roster, on the sidelines each and every week. Not at home in t-shirt and underwear watching the games on tv.

Perhaps this will change soon but right now I don't see Payton really keying in on grooming a QB of the future. I feel it was by chance Romo happened not because they made it happen.

CantonLegend · 04-22-2008, 06:53 PM

Nobody will argue that romo was an unlikely starter.....but now we know how good he is.....and by no means am i comparing tyler palko to tony romo...that would be dumb....Drew has secured the starting position for years to come and i agree with that it is not a question mark for the saints....but i do have to ask...how many more years do u believe mark brunell will play?....this seems to be where our argument lies....i think payton wants to keep palko but you think that bringing in brunell only guarentees palkos fait as an ex-saint

04-22-2008, 05:40 PM	#2
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: will Payton groom Palko? Originally Posted by CantonLegend QB's are hired to play....giving lessons is just the bonus that comes along with being a starter or a veteran....when u bring in a rookie they study, so to speak, under the vets....Palko has talent...plus the knowledge he'll gain from brunell and brees will push him into a starting role...if another team gets him he can and will start in the future for them Ok put aside your obvious man crush on him for a second and come back to reality. He was cut last year by the Saints. If they were so into him they wouldn't have done that. He was resigned because we need 4 QB's in camp. Based on Paytons past 2 seasons, he's keeping only 2 for the regular season... you tell me who is getting cut??? Yeah looks like Martin and Palko. Palko again gets signed to the practice squad (maybe). Martin could be signed back on at anytime if the sky falls on us during the season. He isn't the future #1 QB at this time. I just don't see it at all. You may also want to look back at Brett Farve's comments this past year... He also said he isn't a mentor. Its up to the QB to learn and all its not up to the other QB's to coach them up.
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04-22-2008, 05:45 PM	#3
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: will Payton groom Palko? while my man-crush is obvious...it is obvious also that payton will not give up on youth...he likes young players because they allow him to be more creative...sean payton is one of the nfl's best play designers...i know u think that they will have only 2 qbs its very possible that they could have 3.....we both agree that jamie is on his way out...the only descrepency is whether there will be a 3rd string qb or not

04-22-2008, 05:56 PM	#4
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: will Payton groom Palko? Originally Posted by CantonLegend while my man-crush is obvious...it is obvious also that payton will not give up on youth...he likes young players because they allow him to be more creative...sean payton is one of the nfl's best play designers...i know u think that they will have only 2 qbs its very possible that they could have 3.....we both agree that jamie is on his way out...the only descrepency is whether there will be a 3rd string qb or not I wouldn't say VERY POSSIBLE, but I would say anything is possible. The fact that you use youth to prove your point makes the statement not true at all. Martin is far from being YOUTHFUL and he has hung on to that #2 spot for a while now. I think Payton likes to have maturity in the back up position at QB, that is more true than your youth argument. Also the fact that Brunell is onboard and likely to be the #2 QB this season instead of Palko makes the youth point go out the window. But I will agree that 'anything is possible'.
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04-22-2008, 06:04 PM	#5
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: will Payton groom Palko? i think that it was well worth it to pick up mark brunell as a backup....he is proven as a starter but because drew is better he wont start...given that mark's tank is almost empty i just think its more likely that they keep a 3rd qb...whether it be jamie martin or tyler palko is debatable....i agree with peanut tho....payton has a tendency to coach up younger players....he did it for romo who had question marks about whether he could start long term....palko is another no-name and could be just another romo rising through the saints depth chart
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04-22-2008, 06:28 PM	#6
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: will Payton groom Palko? Originally Posted by CantonLegend i think that it was well worth it to pick up mark brunell as a backup....he is proven as a starter but because drew is better he wont start...given that mark's tank is almost empty i just think its more likely that they keep a 3rd qb...whether it be jamie martin or tyler palko is debatable....i agree with peanut tho....payton has a tendency to coach up younger players....he did it for romo who had question marks about whether he could start long term....palko is another no-name and could be just another romo rising through the saints depth chart Actually Payton is the one following in Tuna's footsteps. The Tuna didn't want Romo to start, wasn't ready. Perhpas starting the reasons he is gone and done in Dallas. Tuna kept to the older mature QB's over the younger ones... and this seems to be holding true for Payton. If Payton was so deadset on 'grooming' a young QB he would be on the active roster, on the sidelines each and every week. Not at home in t-shirt and underwear watching the games on tv. Perhaps this will change soon but right now I don't see Payton really keying in on grooming a QB of the future. I feel it was by chance Romo happened not because they made it happen.
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04-22-2008, 05:29 PM	#1
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: will Payton groom Palko? Originally Posted by Euphoria QB's aren't hired to give lesson's. They are hired to be QB's and back up QB's. What Palko does with his time is up to him. Palko signed on perhaps as a camp body. Don't get me wrong I like him... and I though he should have been on the roster last year in place of Martin. THey cut Palko last year so yes they will cut him again if they need to. He'll get cut at the start of the season and if no one picks him up he'll be put on the practice squad again. This will be the last year he can be kept on the practice squad if no one else picks him up that is. QB's are hired to play....giving lessons is just the bonus that comes along with being a starter or a veteran....when u bring in a rookie they study, so to speak, under the vets....Palko has talent...plus the knowledge he'll gain from brunell and brees will push him into a starting role...if another team gets him he can and will start in the future for them

04-22-2008, 06:53 PM	#7
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: will Payton groom Palko? Nobody will argue that romo was an unlikely starter.....but now we know how good he is.....and by no means am i comparing tyler palko to tony romo...that would be dumb....Drew has secured the starting position for years to come and i agree with that it is not a question mark for the saints....but i do have to ask...how many more years do u believe mark brunell will play?....this seems to be where our argument lies....i think payton wants to keep palko but you think that bringing in brunell only guarentees palkos fait as an ex-saint
	"deal with it or you can go play the saints and get trounced by 30 and you won't have to worry about it."-colin cowherd