IF Rams take the offer tomorrow...

saintsfan1976 · 04-25-2008, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

Rams aren't taking our offer. We will get Ellis at 7 or 8 if it happens at all. I'm not for trading LT Brown. OT is the second highest paid position in the league for a reason and Brown is an All Pro. Trading him may prove to get Brees killed/injured and Dorsey will not make that much of a difference if Brees goes down.

I agree that we can't give enough to the Rams and picking Ellis would be great.

But, Brown is falling apart. Knees and penalties.

Euphoria · 04-25-2008, 03:59 PM

Was Brown and all pro last year??? NO? then he isn't an all pro. You are only as good as your last season. Can't hang on to people who don't perform like they are suppose to. This is the NFL.

hagan714 · 04-25-2008, 04:56 PM

Why Brown? move him back to RT. Trade stinch

pakowitz · 04-25-2008, 04:58 PM

i believe that we offered stinch.. they turned it down..

foreverfan · 04-25-2008, 05:03 PM

As for LT Brown... what makes you think one off year and his career is over? If that's the case, what can be said for Vilma, Morgan or Deuce?

Player heal and get better. Besides, we don't get 2 starters if you lose Brown. You only get one. I thought this board was smarter than that.

Besides, we're drafting RB in the 1st. Didn't you read my post?

Euphoria · 04-25-2008, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

As for LT Brown... what makes you think one off year and his career is over? If that's the case, what can be said for Vilma, Morgan or Deuce?

Player heal and get better. Besides, we don't get 2 starters if you lose Brown. You only get one. I thought this board was smarter than that.

Besides, we're drafting RB in the 1st. Didn't you read my post?

LOL ok thats funny.

Well we have to give up something expendable to us so we can not give up the second. What you have to ask youself is "DORSEY and Shockey worth giving up Brown for?"

hagan714 · 04-25-2008, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

LOL ok thats funny.

Well we have to give up something expendable to us so we can not give up the second. What you have to ask youself is "DORSEY and Shockey worth giving up Brown for?"

expendable to us? Do not say that to Drew.

Who is our LT? Isn't Brown a better RT than LT? He is better than any other RT we have. He signed through 2011 and costs just over 700,000 a year.

Still I think this move is one year to early. Lets see what the bench can do this year first. then get cute. Safer to bet knowing what is in your hand than to bet on a blind.

Euphoria · 04-25-2008, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

expendable to us? Do not say that to Drew.

Who is our LT? Isn't Brown a better RT than LT? He is better than any other RT we have. He signed through 2011 and costs just over 700,000 a year.

Still I think this move is one year to early. Lets see what the bench can do this year first. then get cute. Safer to bet knowing what is in your hand than to bet on a blind.

Well you want to see what the bench can do... you have to take into account the coaches feel safe with this decision and they know something we don't.
Some draft picks were made last year and its time for them to come into their own now. I like it.
We were 7-9 last year, we got to make some changes.

hagan714 · 04-25-2008, 05:47 PM

7-9 after 10-6 and we are tail spin? Panic? No I think we are more closer to the 10-6 team than the 7-9. So panic is out. take your time and make sure. the draft is not that good. dorsey will never happen, IMO. #2 is just to high. now Shockey involved with Brown would make more sense. we should get something in return based on age alone. Shockey for Stinch and we add a lower pick makes even more sense.

Euphoria · 04-25-2008, 05:56 PM

well then it should really upset up that there might have a deal done getting shockey for #40 and another pick.

I suspected something was a foot this morning that the offer to the Rams was no longer a seond rounder.

Moving up to #2 is to high... I don't see it... but giving up a #2 and something else to get Shockey is robbery.

04-25-2008, 04:24 PM	#1
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,069 Blog Entries: 3	Re: IF Rams take the offer tomorrow... Originally Posted by foreverfan Rams aren't taking our offer. We will get Ellis at 7 or 8 if it happens at all. I'm not for trading LT Brown. OT is the second highest paid position in the league for a reason and Brown is an All Pro. Trading him may prove to get Brees killed/injured and Dorsey will not make that much of a difference if Brees goes down. I agree that we can't give enough to the Rams and picking Ellis would be great. But, Brown is falling apart. Knees and penalties.

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foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: IF Rams take the offer tomorrow... As for LT Brown... what makes you think one off year and his career is over? If that's the case, what can be said for Vilma, Morgan or Deuce? Player heal and get better. Besides, we don't get 2 starters if you lose Brown. You only get one. I thought this board was smarter than that. Besides, we're drafting RB in the 1st. Didn't you read my post?

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: IF Rams take the offer tomorrow... Originally Posted by foreverfan As for LT Brown... what makes you think one off year and his career is over? If that's the case, what can be said for Vilma, Morgan or Deuce? Player heal and get better. Besides, we don't get 2 starters if you lose Brown. You only get one. I thought this board was smarter than that. Besides, we're drafting RB in the 1st. Didn't you read my post? LOL ok thats funny. Well we have to give up something expendable to us so we can not give up the second. What you have to ask youself is "DORSEY and Shockey worth giving up Brown for?"

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: IF Rams take the offer tomorrow... Originally Posted by Euphoria LOL ok thats funny. Well we have to give up something expendable to us so we can not give up the second. What you have to ask youself is "DORSEY and Shockey worth giving up Brown for?" expendable to us? Do not say that to Drew. Who is our LT? Isn't Brown a better RT than LT? He is better than any other RT we have. He signed through 2011 and costs just over 700,000 a year. Still I think this move is one year to early. Lets see what the bench can do this year first. then get cute. Safer to bet knowing what is in your hand than to bet on a blind.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: IF Rams take the offer tomorrow... Was Brown and all pro last year??? NO? then he isn't an all pro. You are only as good as your last season. Can't hang on to people who don't perform like they are suppose to. This is the NFL.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: IF Rams take the offer tomorrow... Originally Posted by hagan714 expendable to us? Do not say that to Drew. Who is our LT? Isn't Brown a better RT than LT? He is better than any other RT we have. He signed through 2011 and costs just over 700,000 a year. Still I think this move is one year to early. Lets see what the bench can do this year first. then get cute. Safer to bet knowing what is in your hand than to bet on a blind. Well you want to see what the bench can do... you have to take into account the coaches feel safe with this decision and they know something we don't. Some draft picks were made last year and its time for them to come into their own now. I like it. We were 7-9 last year, we got to make some changes.

04-25-2008, 05:47 PM	#9
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: IF Rams take the offer tomorrow... 7-9 after 10-6 and we are tail spin? Panic? No I think we are more closer to the 10-6 team than the 7-9. So panic is out. take your time and make sure. the draft is not that good. dorsey will never happen, IMO. #2 is just to high. now Shockey involved with Brown would make more sense. we should get something in return based on age alone. Shockey for Stinch and we add a lower pick makes even more sense.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: IF Rams take the offer tomorrow... well then it should really upset up that there might have a deal done getting shockey for #40 and another pick. I suspected something was a foot this morning that the offer to the Rams was no longer a seond rounder. Moving up to #2 is to high... I don't see it... but giving up a #2 and something else to get Shockey is robbery.
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