So, do you package the 2nd and 5th for Shockey?

BG12136 · 04-26-2008, 03:06 PM

I say no. Its a TE after all. I say keep your 2nd and pick best player available. Hopefully a CB or LB.

BG12136 · 04-26-2008, 03:09 PM

Ellis is a good pick, but I'd rather have gotten the deal that Baltimore got with the Jacksonville trade. Jack gave up the house.

SapperSaint · 04-26-2008, 03:09 PM

I say draft a LB or CB.

I don't know if the Shockey deal would be worth it.... now.

D_it_up · 04-26-2008, 03:11 PM

Yeah. The Ravens just racked up. Jack's 1st, two 3's, and a 4th. Nice move on their part, because now they won't have to pay as much to get Henne, Brohm, or Flacco. Jacksonville screwed themselves.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 04-26-2008, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by BG12136

Ellis is a good pick, but I'd rather have gotten the deal that Baltimore got with the Jacksonville trade. Jack gave up the house.

I disagree. The Saints really are more like Jacksonville at this point as opposed to the Ravens. The defense needed holes filled:

CB: Gay
LB: Vilma and hopefully Morgan
DT: Ellis
S: Hopefully KK will play a lot more.

The defense is now much closer to a defense that can win a championship.

The Ravens are rebuilding. The Saints are not. We don't need 8000 picks like the Ravens, Falcons, and Chiefs.

We got the guy that we needed. I am truly happy with the trade and the pick.

SFIAH

lsutigerfan · 04-26-2008, 03:18 PM

I say make the trade unless Dan Cooner is still on the board.

lsutigerfan · 04-26-2008, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I disagree. The Saints really are more like Jacksonville at this point as opposed to the Ravens. The defense needed holes filled:

CB: Gay
LB: Vilma and hopefully Morgan
DT: Ellis
S: Hopefully KK will play a lot more.

The defense is now much closer to a defense that can win a championship.

The Ravens are rebuilding. The Saints are not. We don't need 8000 picks like the Ravens, Falcons, and Chiefs.

We got the guy that we needed. I am truly happy with the trade and the pick.

SFIAH

I agree this move makes us instant SB contenders.

BG12136 · 04-26-2008, 03:28 PM

The farther we go down the draft, most teams will start picking for need. Just have to see whats left when we get to the 2nd round. You might see Saints package our 2nd and a pick for next year to move up to the top of the 2nd round to get that player (Outside LB or CB). The pick next year will probably need to be a 3rd though. You have think the Saints will do well next year, which means their picks will be in the second half of the draft board, hopefully the last pick of the round. The point being next years 4th round pick probably won't be enough to move up this year.

ScottF · 04-26-2008, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by BG12136

I say no. Its a TE after all. I say keep your 2nd and pick best player available. Hopefully a CB or LB.

If they wouldn't take Harper and a 2nd, why would they take a 2nd and 5th?

But yes, I would make that deal

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SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: So, do you package the 2nd and 5th for Shockey? Originally Posted by BG12136 Ellis is a good pick, but I'd rather have gotten the deal that Baltimore got with the Jacksonville trade. Jack gave up the house. I disagree. The Saints really are more like Jacksonville at this point as opposed to the Ravens. The defense needed holes filled: CB: Gay LB: Vilma and hopefully Morgan DT: Ellis S: Hopefully KK will play a lot more. The defense is now much closer to a defense that can win a championship. The Ravens are rebuilding. The Saints are not. We don't need 8000 picks like the Ravens, Falcons, and Chiefs. We got the guy that we needed. I am truly happy with the trade and the pick. SFIAH

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lsutigerfan 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: born And raised in NOLA, now live in Los Angeles Posts: 811	Re: So, do you package the 2nd and 5th for Shockey? Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I disagree. The Saints really are more like Jacksonville at this point as opposed to the Ravens. The defense needed holes filled: CB: Gay LB: Vilma and hopefully Morgan DT: Ellis S: Hopefully KK will play a lot more. The defense is now much closer to a defense that can win a championship. The Ravens are rebuilding. The Saints are not. We don't need 8000 picks like the Ravens, Falcons, and Chiefs. We got the guy that we needed. I am truly happy with the trade and the pick. SFIAH I agree this move makes us instant SB contenders.

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BG12136 Rookie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 18	Re: So, do you package the 2nd and 5th for Shockey? The farther we go down the draft, most teams will start picking for need. Just have to see whats left when we get to the 2nd round. You might see Saints package our 2nd and a pick for next year to move up to the top of the 2nd round to get that player (Outside LB or CB). The pick next year will probably need to be a 3rd though. You have think the Saints will do well next year, which means their picks will be in the second half of the draft board, hopefully the last pick of the round. The point being next years 4th round pick probably won't be enough to move up this year.
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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: So, do you package the 2nd and 5th for Shockey? Originally Posted by BG12136 I say no. Its a TE after all. I say keep your 2nd and pick best player available. Hopefully a CB or LB. If they wouldn't take Harper and a 2nd, why would they take a 2nd and 5th? But yes, I would make that deal