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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; 2. Sedrick Ellis, USC, 6005, 309, 5.23 Ellis is a classic one gap defensive tackle that can thrive if put in the right scheme. He penetrates well and has elite closing speed for a defensive tackle. Very quick with a ...
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04-26-2008, 06:46 PM | #1 |
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2. Sedrick Ellis, USC, 6005, 309, 5.23
Ellis is a classic one gap defensive tackle that can thrive if put in the right scheme. He penetrates well and has elite closing speed for a defensive tackle. Very quick with a great first step. A terrific pass rusher with the burst to close. Ellis is a disruptive force against the run when allowed to penetrate and create pressure in the backfield. Sheds blocks well and is able to beat the double team. Has a non-stop motor. Tough and a very hard worker with top-notch intangibles Ellis' relative lack of height at just under 6'1" and his durability, as he has had injuries throughout his career at Southern California. Doesn't have the ideal height or bulk that you look for. Might have some trouble holding his ground at the point against massive blockers. I am still not sold on him in the top ten. Sorry I can not go here. The only reason he is up here is because of the weak draft in round one. In any other draft he is in the range of 15 to 25. Prototypical three-technique at the pro level do not go this high. According to all sources, Ellis has been an absolutely dominant force in Senior Bowl practices -- a tool which many NFL coaches use to evaluate prospects. Ellis performed well on the bench press at the combine, completing 34 reps of 225 pounds; however he ran a slower than expected 5.24 forty yard dash. Ellis' stock may slide a few spots, but he will still be a top 10 draft pick. 2c. Tracy Porter, Indiana, 5107, 186, 4.33, 18, 34, Porter has been one of the most consistent corners over the last few years. He shows fantastic ability out in coverage, especially when playing man-to-man. Porter's tackling from the corner position is also among the best in the country. He is explosively quick, has that burst to recover and the speed to stick with any wide out step-for-step. An outstanding athlete that has fluid hips and is very agile with great hands. As a four year starter at Indiana, Porter proved to be a dynamic player on the defensive side of the ball. Porter is currently second among active NCAA players with 16 career interceptions (6 this season, with a 22.8 yard return average). with good height with long arms ( 32") the 5'11", 185 lbs. Porter has recorded 83 tackles this season (63 of them solo). Along with his lofty interception total, he has proven to have a knack for getting around the football. Porter has 24 career pass break ups, along with 5.5 tackles for loss, 1 sack, 2 forced fumbles, and 3 fumble recoveries. He flies to the football, blows the play up and is a sure tackler who will rarely miss. Physical, loves to come up and hit. To go along with his abilities on defense, Porter is one of the better return men in the country. As a junior he averaged 18.6 yards per punt return -- scoring on an 86 yarder -- while only sharing the duties. During the regular season, Porter returned all 23 punts for the Hoosiers, averaging 11 yards per return. A threat to score every time he touches the ball. Doesn't have the bulk you look for and will have some trouble getting a jam at the line. Needs to hit the weight room. Marginal technique and footwork resulting in him giving a big cushion. He will give up some easy catches. Struggled against bigger wide receivers. This guy is really the definition of a play maker in the secondary. Also a top punt returner and coverage team gunner. A talented, finesse corner with a great combination of size / speed CB Tracy Porter worked out at his school's Pro Day this week. Porter ran a 4.33 40-yard dash, while he ran a 4.45 40-yard dash at the 2008 NFL Scouting Combine. He has what Flowers does not; SIZE and SPEED! While I am not sold on ellis 100% I can live with the pick. but we still need to address a back up to Hollis. Porter is a guy I think will be a nice addition and may become the guy to stay out on the island. while I was hoping for CB/S type or a CB that may have a higher cieling he is solid. All in all given this draft I say the saints did a solid job. |
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04-26-2008, 06:49 PM | #2 |
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Re: picks #7 and #40
Solid B for me... we did well for ourselves. Disappointing we don't have more picks. Lots of solid value picks will be there in the 3rd.
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Re: picks #7 and #40
actually in other drafts Ellis could be a top 4 pick.
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04-26-2008, 06:53 PM | #4 |
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i think we did what we could. we did everything we could to get dorsey, and when that did not go we went up and got ellis. I have to at least give credit for us going d on both picks and being aggressive
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04-26-2008, 07:04 PM | #5 |
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I am very happy with both. I am a USC fan and saw Ellis take on blockers all year and just make everyone around that much better. I, for one am not worried about height or speed.
Porter seems like the type of guy that can really help with ST, which can save a roster spot for say, P. Thomas or Stecker. Now either Moore or Copper won't be around week 1. |
04-26-2008, 07:08 PM | #6 |
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We did awesome with that trade with the patriots..I cant beleive the cheifs turned down our offer of a first and second this year and a first next year for Dorsey which im happy they did.
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04-26-2008, 08:38 PM | #7 |
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The draft was solid if you ask me...the Saints filled their biggest hole with a top flight DT. They added more speed to the back end of the defense with Porter who also can help out in the return game and maybe give that unit a boost. The chance will be there in the 5th and 6th rounds to add a guy or two as depth at o-line, LB, or safety. I think the FO made it a point to get younger and more athletic on defense and that is exactly what they have done this offseason. We actually have depth at DE with McCray, DT with Ellis, LB's now actually have 5 guys who can get on the field and we have added some much needed speed and playmaking ability to the backfield with Gay and Porter and a year of development from Usama Young. The defense is certainly on the right track.
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04-26-2008, 08:45 PM | #8 |
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id love to see us use the extra 5th we got to pick up Zbikowski or however he spells it.
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Zibakowski. He would be a beast.
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04-26-2008, 10:56 PM | #10 |
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And not only that - we held on to Harper (which was important in my book, as you all knew), and even more so since we didn't draft a safety on day one. I think you guys know I was really looking hard at Tyrell, and Kenny Phillips, I was crying about safety for weeks.
But it's not a crisis now - we held onto Harper, we picked up a fantastic prospect in Porter, and now we have the ability to be just as flexible as we want to be in day 2. BPA... I'm excited about what they've got slated for day two. Safety sounds good, OL is good, PK is good, hell, anything is good. Just get the best guy out there, and keep this smile on LoE's face. |
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