First Day Grade...

LordOfEntropy · 04-26-2008, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by freakmech

We got a CB with HANDS and SPEED! wow, when was the last time we had one of those?

Too long.

frankeefrank · 04-26-2008, 08:17 PM

We didn't get the top DT or the top CB in this draft...
C

D_it_up · 04-26-2008, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by frankeefrank

We didn't get the top DT or the top CB in this draft...
C

Must be a Jets fan. They are never pleased.

winmill1 · 04-26-2008, 08:21 PM

I don't think the Shockey trade is dead. I think the Giants know he is dead weight. I think we still acquire him for a super bargain, because the Giants have no choice. Just a feeling. I felt like before draft day 1, we were a pawn move away from being contenders. I feel like the FO knew how good we are and made the aggressive adjustments to make this team great.

CantonLegend · 04-26-2008, 08:21 PM

while i think that ellis was a great pickup for only a 3rd rounder and our 1st rounder....i hate that the saints did not trade up to get brandon flowers who i really think would compliment our defensive backs a lot better....i think that we were holding on to the shockey trade for too long....i thought for a second we might miss our pick...i think it got down to 24 seconds or so....i think they wanted shockey....and after a week of the hype...i kinda wanted us to get him too....i like our 2nd pick but i think that had we known shockey wouldnt be traded to us we might have tried to move up and get brandon flowers

LordOfEntropy · 04-26-2008, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by frankeefrank

We didn't get the top DT or the top CB in this draft...

Ahh... but that remains to be seen. I'll agree with you about DT - Dorsey is my pick too. I think he's the best DT to come along in years. But give it time... I can't wait to see how Porter develops. He may end up being the best man coverage guy out of this draft class. Let's check back in a couple years.

CantonLegend · 04-26-2008, 08:24 PM

C+...i like ellis and i think his strength will turn out to be a great addition seeing as how he is one of the strongest players in the draft....i think he needs some work on his feet movement off the snap...while he is very fast off the ball he still struggles with his feet placement and getting them underneath him...i love that pick....however i think we dropped off heavily after we didnt pick a top 5 corner....we could have had ne of them and we got none of them

WVSaint · 04-26-2008, 08:25 PM

we didnt give into the demands of KC or NY and give up too much for Dorsey or Shockey. Im glad to see we didnt go all in for a certain player. Ellis is a very solid pick. Porter im not so sure about. Ill give day 1 a B, on paper our defense is much better than it was 24 hours ago.

D_it_up · 04-26-2008, 08:42 PM

I have no clue why there is so much boo-hooing over not getting a top-5 corner when we got one of the premier DT's in the draft. With that happening, it's a no-brainer that we weren't getting one of those corners. Porter may not have all the hype attached to him that the other corners did, but I'm going out on a limb that he is going to a be a solid corner for this team for quite a while.

spkb25 · 04-26-2008, 09:03 PM

well yeah that is exactly what happens when your not picking first, you generally can not demand the top pick. Yes when your picking 10th, as Kurtis Blow once said, them is the breaks.
Every year we sit here and scream and holler that we are not drafting need, or we did not draft the right guy, we are reaching, or not being aggressive enough. This year we go out and get the guy we need at dt and then turn around and draft a corner, a corner that looks like he could end up being very good. We did not destroy our future in the process either. I can not understand how we as fans can not be at the least, until proven to the other, excited that we did the right thing today. well I guess it just proves you can not please everyone all the time.

04-26-2008, 08:16 PM	#11
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Re: First Day Grade... Originally Posted by freakmech We got a CB with HANDS and SPEED! wow, when was the last time we had one of those? Too long.

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04-26-2008, 08:20 PM	#13
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: First Day Grade... Originally Posted by frankeefrank We didn't get the top DT or the top CB in this draft... C Must be a Jets fan. They are never pleased.

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winmill1 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 426	Re: First Day Grade... I don't think the Shockey trade is dead. I think the Giants know he is dead weight. I think we still acquire him for a super bargain, because the Giants have no choice. Just a feeling. I felt like before draft day 1, we were a pawn move away from being contenders. I feel like the FO knew how good we are and made the aggressive adjustments to make this team great.
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04-26-2008, 08:22 PM	#16
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Re: First Day Grade... Originally Posted by frankeefrank We didn't get the top DT or the top CB in this draft... Ahh... but that remains to be seen. I'll agree with you about DT - Dorsey is my pick too. I think he's the best DT to come along in years. But give it time... I can't wait to see how Porter develops. He may end up being the best man coverage guy out of this draft class. Let's check back in a couple years.

04-26-2008, 08:24 PM	#17
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: First Day Grade... C+...i like ellis and i think his strength will turn out to be a great addition seeing as how he is one of the strongest players in the draft....i think he needs some work on his feet movement off the snap...while he is very fast off the ball he still struggles with his feet placement and getting them underneath him...i love that pick....however i think we dropped off heavily after we didnt pick a top 5 corner....we could have had ne of them and we got none of them

04-26-2008, 08:25 PM	#18
WVSaint 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: West Virginia Posts: 807	Re: First Day Grade... we didnt give into the demands of KC or NY and give up too much for Dorsey or Shockey. Im glad to see we didnt go all in for a certain player. Ellis is a very solid pick. Porter im not so sure about. Ill give day 1 a B, on paper our defense is much better than it was 24 hours ago.

04-26-2008, 08:42 PM	#19
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: First Day Grade... I have no clue why there is so much boo-hooing over not getting a top-5 corner when we got one of the premier DT's in the draft. With that happening, it's a no-brainer that we weren't getting one of those corners. Porter may not have all the hype attached to him that the other corners did, but I'm going out on a limb that he is going to a be a solid corner for this team for quite a while.

04-26-2008, 09:03 PM	#20
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: First Day Grade... well yeah that is exactly what happens when your not picking first, you generally can not demand the top pick. Yes when your picking 10th, as Kurtis Blow once said, them is the breaks. Every year we sit here and scream and holler that we are not drafting need, or we did not draft the right guy, we are reaching, or not being aggressive enough. This year we go out and get the guy we need at dt and then turn around and draft a corner, a corner that looks like he could end up being very good. We did not destroy our future in the process either. I can not understand how we as fans can not be at the least, until proven to the other, excited that we did the right thing today. well I guess it just proves you can not please everyone all the time.
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