Who's Days are numbered?

CantonLegend · 04-28-2008, 05:38 PM

im beginning to believe that as well....if the front seven can keep the run away from our CBs then we will be a great defense this year...i think we brought in players to do that....however....in the playoffs where the O-lines are a lot better and the QBs will have time to throw the ball whether u blitz or not....our CBs will be in trouble...i still dont think we have that solid number one corner...McKenzie rocks but there are even better CBs out there than him....and some were even available this offseason

hagan714 · 04-28-2008, 06:13 PM

I am betting if anything it will be an aging vet. The saints are now on a youth movement for the defense.

Euphoria · 04-28-2008, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

however....in the playoffs where the O-lines are a lot better and the QBs will have time to throw the ball whether u blitz or not....our CBs will be in trouble...i still dont think we have that solid number one corner...McKenzie rocks but there are even better CBs out there than him....and some were even available this offseason

The best offense in NFL history got tore up but a good front 7 not but great CB's.

Try telling the Patriots that... Patriots lost not because of the Giants CB's they lost because of the immense pressure coming from the Giants front 7. SB before that was the immense pressure from the colts front 7 that beat the Pats and then the Bears.

I don't know if you have been paying attention but we have a CB with a SB ring. Jason David. So if he can get a ring not that long ago being on the Colts then he is capable, all we need to do is learn from the other teams and what they are doing.

CantonLegend · 04-28-2008, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

The best offense in NFL history got tore up but a good front 7 not but great CB's.

Try telling the Patriots that... Patriots lost not because of the Giants CB's they lost because of the immense pressure coming from the Giants front 7. SB before that was the immense pressure from the colts front 7 that beat the Pats and then the Bears.

I don't know if you have been paying attention but we have a CB with a SB ring. Jason David. So if he can get a ring not that long ago being on the Colts then he is capable, all we need to do is learn from the other teams and what they are doing.

our front seven will not blitz....the giants utilized their amazing DEs with blitzing schemes from the linebackers....maybe u missed last season but jason david thought his job was to get beat deep....i dont think we have the talent overall that the giants defense had...and will smith is no michael strahan nor is grant a uminyora(forgive spelling)....the patriots line is an elite line as well as the colts line and the browns and the steelers....we cant put pressure on their QBs like the giants were able to do

CantonLegend · 04-28-2008, 06:34 PM

Our LB's and coaches don't use the LB's as pass rushers that often. Hell they don't utilize anyone as a pass rusher. I don't see them changing blitzing our LB's that much this season either. Thats why they went after a top DT early. Get some big names up front to disrupt and you're LB's play more like safties and chase down runners.

come on man u know that....u said it urself...we cant put pressure on QBs

winmill1 · 04-29-2008, 09:28 AM

The scouts just said that Porter wasn't overly physical. So what. We don't need an overly physical corner. That just means he won't play S. We need a man coverage corner-that's what we got.

winmill1 · 04-29-2008, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

our front seven will not blitz....the giants utilized their amazing DEs with blitzing schemes from the linebackers....maybe u missed last season but jason david thought his job was to get beat deep....i dont think we have the talent overall that the giants defense had...and will smith is no michael strahan nor is grant a uminyora(forgive spelling)....the patriots line is an elite line as well as the colts line and the browns and the steelers....we cant put pressure on their QBs like the giants were able to do

The difference is that the Giants didn't NEED to blitz the LB's to get pressure on Brady. Most of the time they got pressure with the front four. When they brought pressure with the LB's the Lb had a direct line to the QB. This is why they were so effective because they could also drop a Lb into coverage. Brady is an expert at finding the open guy. In blitz packages he knows where to put the ball. When you are getting pressure with 4 and noones open, it created havoc for Brady.

Tobias-Reiper · 04-29-2008, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

how dare you compare tracy porter to one of the best if not the best corner of all time....his speed is elite and 80 tackles is impressive but u dont get knocked for being bad at tackling unless you are in fact...bad at tackling...if somebody runs right at u...ur going to make the tackle eventually

..maybe because Deion was in fact... bad at tackling?

04-28-2008, 05:38 PM	#11
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Who's Days are numbered? im beginning to believe that as well....if the front seven can keep the run away from our CBs then we will be a great defense this year...i think we brought in players to do that....however....in the playoffs where the O-lines are a lot better and the QBs will have time to throw the ball whether u blitz or not....our CBs will be in trouble...i still dont think we have that solid number one corner...McKenzie rocks but there are even better CBs out there than him....and some were even available this offseason
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04-28-2008, 06:13 PM	#12
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Who's Days are numbered? I am betting if anything it will be an aging vet. The saints are now on a youth movement for the defense.

04-28-2008, 06:25 PM	#13
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Who's Days are numbered? Originally Posted by CantonLegend however....in the playoffs where the O-lines are a lot better and the QBs will have time to throw the ball whether u blitz or not....our CBs will be in trouble...i still dont think we have that solid number one corner...McKenzie rocks but there are even better CBs out there than him....and some were even available this offseason The best offense in NFL history got tore up but a good front 7 not but great CB's. Try telling the Patriots that... Patriots lost not because of the Giants CB's they lost because of the immense pressure coming from the Giants front 7. SB before that was the immense pressure from the colts front 7 that beat the Pats and then the Bears. I don't know if you have been paying attention but we have a CB with a SB ring. Jason David. So if he can get a ring not that long ago being on the Colts then he is capable, all we need to do is learn from the other teams and what they are doing.
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04-28-2008, 06:30 PM	#14
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Who's Days are numbered? Originally Posted by Euphoria The best offense in NFL history got tore up but a good front 7 not but great CB's. Try telling the Patriots that... Patriots lost not because of the Giants CB's they lost because of the immense pressure coming from the Giants front 7. SB before that was the immense pressure from the colts front 7 that beat the Pats and then the Bears. I don't know if you have been paying attention but we have a CB with a SB ring. Jason David. So if he can get a ring not that long ago being on the Colts then he is capable, all we need to do is learn from the other teams and what they are doing. our front seven will not blitz....the giants utilized their amazing DEs with blitzing schemes from the linebackers....maybe u missed last season but jason david thought his job was to get beat deep....i dont think we have the talent overall that the giants defense had...and will smith is no michael strahan nor is grant a uminyora(forgive spelling)....the patriots line is an elite line as well as the colts line and the browns and the steelers....we cant put pressure on their QBs like the giants were able to do

04-28-2008, 06:34 PM	#15
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Who's Days are numbered? Our LB's and coaches don't use the LB's as pass rushers that often. Hell they don't utilize anyone as a pass rusher. I don't see them changing blitzing our LB's that much this season either. Thats why they went after a top DT early. Get some big names up front to disrupt and you're LB's play more like safties and chase down runners. come on man u know that....u said it urself...we cant put pressure on QBs

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04-29-2008, 09:28 AM	#16
winmill1 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 426	Re: Who's Days are numbered? The scouts just said that Porter wasn't overly physical. So what. We don't need an overly physical corner. That just means he won't play S. We need a man coverage corner-that's what we got.
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04-29-2008, 09:33 AM	#17
winmill1 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 426	Re: Who's Days are numbered? Originally Posted by CantonLegend our front seven will not blitz....the giants utilized their amazing DEs with blitzing schemes from the linebackers....maybe u missed last season but jason david thought his job was to get beat deep....i dont think we have the talent overall that the giants defense had...and will smith is no michael strahan nor is grant a uminyora(forgive spelling)....the patriots line is an elite line as well as the colts line and the browns and the steelers....we cant put pressure on their QBs like the giants were able to do The difference is that the Giants didn't NEED to blitz the LB's to get pressure on Brady. Most of the time they got pressure with the front four. When they brought pressure with the LB's the Lb had a direct line to the QB. This is why they were so effective because they could also drop a Lb into coverage. Brady is an expert at finding the open guy. In blitz packages he knows where to put the ball. When you are getting pressure with 4 and noones open, it created havoc for Brady.
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04-29-2008, 10:21 AM	#18
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Who's Days are numbered? Originally Posted by CantonLegend how dare you compare tracy porter to one of the best if not the best corner of all time....his speed is elite and 80 tackles is impressive but u dont get knocked for being bad at tackling unless you are in fact...bad at tackling...if somebody runs right at u...ur going to make the tackle eventually ..maybe because Deion was in fact... bad at tackling?