Re: Crystal Ball?
 

this is all I know
we got Vilma for a fourth this year

This is how I understand the condition:
1) If he never sees the field or gets carted off with "The knee" injuried as a career ender. Thats all we loss. A fourth
2) He plays so many games ( thats the question, how many?) and performs well but does not sign with us and is still able to play, we loss a 3rd.
3) He plays that mystery number of games, performs well and signs with us, we lose the 2nd in next years draft.

Now plays at what level(?), I am sure is part of the deal. I hate these kind of deals. You never really get a clear explanation (lawyers geeezzz). But a player like Vilma is worth it.

Re: Crystal Ball?
 

I read an interview with Loomis before the draft and he said that he was not ready to disclose the conditions of the trade at this time. I'll try to find a link, but either way, details of this trade are speculative at this point.

We definitely gave up our 4th this year, and there are conditions of the trade that may effect the 09 draft. That is all that has officially been said to this point.

Here's the quote:

It came from scouts insider via the rev.