who was the steal in our draft?
 

looking back in the 5th round, carl nicks gets my nod....
in a lot of mock drafts i looked at, he was going in the first, 2nd, and 3rd rounds.........more 1st and 2nds than 3rds........
as far as issues, getting in trouble at a college party is deep down the list..
maybe, just maybe, this will be one of the many bright spots in our draft.

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I think you nailed it ssmitty, Carl Nicks seems like he was a super steal. I keep saying it but Mayock called him the best run blocker in the entire draft. What makes the pick even better is the fact that we need a mauler type run blocking RT IMHO. I have never been a Stinch fan and I never will be. Stinch is a smart player but he's soft. We needed a big nasty like Nicks. Even if he can't play RT at the NFL level he could slide down to guard and be a force. I'm not worried about his character. Anybody who read my posts concerning Shockey and Pacman knows that I don't mind character issues if the player in question can flat out play.

Is it just me or is anybody else really excited about our OL this year? Even though we lost Faine I still think we'll have one of the top 5 lines in the league.

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I hope to see some changes on the O-line this year. Nicks has some good upside and Bushrod may be an option to start at RT. I also wouldn't mind seeing Alleman push for Nesbits spot.

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We really, really need a Center IMO. I think Nesbit may make the move to C, especially if one of these new kids can make a start of his NFL career at G.

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The steal was moving up and taking Ellis because we literally stole him from Cincy.

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Pressley....just a notch below Dorsey and Ellis talent wise...when motivated, he is a force

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I have to say Nicks, because he is a road grader. If Pressley can stay healthy & motivated, he will be the steal. He is a beast when healthy!

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I think Arrington makes the team. He has a ton of potential; we'll see his motivation soon. Nicks will definitely lead to at least a great battle at backup.

I am on the fence about Pressley.

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Rounds 1, 2, 5a, 5b all were steals. The 6th was ok because it did fit an area of need. The 7th was a steal. I really like this draft.

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errr... the kicker .... what's his name again?

:no:

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the steal I think is carl Nicks as well.....he should start by the beginning of 09, if not sooner.

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I could careless about "character", no one is perfect. I hope the drafted players can atleast help the team with depth.

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Being an Alum from NCSU I must say Pressley can be a dominant force. If he had Ellis' or Dorsey's drive and motor I would put him right up there with them. However he reminds me too much of Sullivan with the fact he got by on his physical attributes in college. If the coaches can motivate him all year long then he could start for almost any team in the NFL after a year of seasoning, if they cannot motivate him he will just be another huge guy that hangs out at the buffet.

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I have to say Pressley was the biggest steal in the draft. He also can be a dominant force on defense.

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Guys and Gals,

Keep your eyes on Luke Sanders out of LSU...yeah I said it...and not just because he is from LSU but because he played defense for the 2nd ranked defense in the country not to mention the SEC. With Ed coaching him the sky is the limit. He has the size and speed and with a little strength conditioning he will be a force on the weak side. If he turns out like i think he will not only make the team...he will start by 2009. Even making a solid back-up out of rookie free agancy is a steal.

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Nicks is a good option for the steal of the draft. But I think Arrington is going to surprise everyone. I think he'll end up beating out Meachum for playing time. He had a huge bowl game against Fla. State. 9 catches for 153 yds and two touchdowns. And to get him in the 7th round, can you say Colston? I do like Nicks though. You don't find too may players that are 6'5" and 341 lbs. If they pair him up with the right lineman, he's liable to make a huge impact. Brown and Evans on one side is solid. The other side is a question mark. Who will man the tackle postion? Will it be Bushrod? Or Stinch? Or will Alleman play guard and Nicks at tackle? It's going to be interesting to see what the Saints do.

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I watched a lot of film on Nicks because i am a big advocate of getting the best line possible....i love to watch linemen on film....i liked his size and strength...it seemed like he was into it....then as the play went on he tended to quit...he would stop blocking and on more than one occassion his man made the tackle...disappointing but if he does finish then he is a great pickup...i was impressed by arrington but i love michigan so i was very harsh on him....he wasnt quick....he does catch the ball with his hands tho..not his body....you must do that to be an NFL receiver....i am going out on a longshot here.....i think our best draft pick in the second day was....Talor Mehlhaff.....the kicker...yes....the kicker....our kicker position has been a question mark even when carney was our kicker....If he pans out he will score arguably the most points on the team...how is that not a steal?

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I don’t understand the “character issues” that I have been seeing Nicks labeled with. From my understanding there were never any issues until a house he lived in threw a party, and the cops busted it. There is no record of problems before this incident. The guy was a university student. Who didn’t attend a party in university where the cops showed up? I have no issues with his character, and feel that due to the timing of this incident, he got a bad label. However the Saints benefited from this bad label, so I’m still happy with the pick.

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I agree this is a minor bit even the part were he got involved with the cops. The only thing I see for any NFL team to harp on this is the fact he is married with a three-year-old daughter. He should know better being a father. Well he is 22 years old too.
I think it has more to do with two things:
1) Very raw and has a ways to go when it comes to technique
2) a questionable motor
that to me makes more sense

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i read he'll be 25...........what is his age.........

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he's 24.....and can a kicker get some love?....why is he being left out of this debate?

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Carl Nicks. Can't wait to see him in pads

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You should. Players that have bad character can not play very long in the NFL.

Having said that, young kids that do have good character can make mistakes. The ones with character quit being jerks, and can make it in the NFL. The ones that truly have bad character keep making mistakes, and always bring themselves and their team down.

I like all of our picks. I think every one of them have excellent value, save the kicker, whom I believe to have average value.

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"Character" is just too ambiguous for me. It seems like it packs in several ideas that we might want to separate:

(1) Leadership - either by example or by charisma. Lacking this can be bad, but doesn't seem critical.

(2) Making good choices with your life. Lacking this can land you in jail, etc. and this will be a problem for the team. Other things equal, I'd prefer players who don't start fights, are abusive to others (off the field), and so on, but it doesn't make much difference, football speaking, unless they are jailed as a result.

(3) Sensitive to coaching. Players who refuse to learn are a problem for any team. This lack of character does seem to harm the team.

(4) Locker room cancer. I'm never really sure about this one. I'm inclined to think that if a player is so bad he is harming the team because of his presence, that is a problem. On the other hand, I'm not clear on how this could happen... or even what it would be like. Don't get me wrong, I know a lot of players have been called locker room cancers, but I'm still not sure on how it gets to that point.

(5) Player takes care of himself. Players that don't take care of their body, their personal life, and so on can get themselves out of football condition. This, I think, is a minor problem if you have a good training staff, coaches, etc.

I'm sure there are others.

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I think Ellis and Arlington are going to have big time playing time this year. Also some of the free agents coming in are going to take away jobs from our existing core of recievers. I believe Lance Moore and Copper will be gone. Also look for some of our CB/Safeties to be phased our due to the competition of ree agents. Bullocks and Bellamy are gone.