Jeremy Shockey

Euphoria · 05-04-2008, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Champ Kind

The whole "the Giants won because Shockey wasn't playing" argument holds no water whatsoever. What if Bush were to get hurt next year, and we made it to the playoffs? Would you say that the reason we made it was because he wasn't playing? You can't say it. Well you can, but it makes no sense.

actually the phrasing should be "THE GIANTS DIDN'T NEED SHOCKEY TO WIN THE SB". Which the follow up question should be "WHY DO WE NEED HIM IN ORDER TO WIN A SB"?

SaintFanInATLHELL · 05-04-2008, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

actually the phrasing should be "THE GIANTS DIDN'T NEED SHOCKEY TO WIN THE SB". Which the follow up question should be "WHY DO WE NEED HIM IN ORDER TO WIN A SB"?

Correct on both counts.

Thanks.

SFIAH

foreverfan · 05-04-2008, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Correct on both counts.

Thanks.

SFIAH

I bet Reggie Bush and Drew Brees want Shockey because he would instantly make them both better. Figure it out for yourselves cause I'm tired of typing.

This only thing that is important is that Payton wants him. Now if we could get an all pro LB or DE for the same price that we may get an all pro offensive player, I think we would all go for it.

Hey SFIAH, I have some beach front property in AZ I'll trade you for your beach front property in Kansas. Comes with a great desert view.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 05-04-2008, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

I bet Reggie Bush and Drew Brees want Shockey because he would instantly make them both better. Figure it out for yourselves cause I'm tired of typing.

From a talent standpoint you may be right. But that's not what I'm arguing.

Say we could get Antonio Gates. ProBowl Tight End. Worked with Brees. All around good guy.

No problem.

Truth is that if Shockey was the team player that everyone else on the Saints are, then the Giants wouldn't be shopping the guy.

This only thing that is important is that Payton wants him. Now if we could get an all pro LB or DE for the same price that we may get an all pro offensive player, I think we would all go for it.

It's important that the guy fits. The Giants price is too high. Shockey's attitude is too risky. So even though Payton may want him, he ain't coming here.

Hey SFIAH, I have some beach front property in AZ I'll trade you for your beach front property in Kansas. Comes with a great desert view.

Glad you finally caught up.

SFIAH

05-04-2008, 01:51 PM	#1
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: payton wants shockey................... Originally Posted by Champ Kind The whole "the Giants won because Shockey wasn't playing" argument holds no water whatsoever. What if Bush were to get hurt next year, and we made it to the playoffs? Would you say that the reason we made it was because he wasn't playing? You can't say it. Well you can, but it makes no sense. actually the phrasing should be "THE GIANTS DIDN'T NEED SHOCKEY TO WIN THE SB". Which the follow up question should be "WHY DO WE NEED HIM IN ORDER TO WIN A SB"?

05-04-2008, 02:06 PM	#2
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,786	Re: payton wants shockey................... Originally Posted by Euphoria actually the phrasing should be "THE GIANTS DIDN'T NEED SHOCKEY TO WIN THE SB". Which the follow up question should be "WHY DO WE NEED HIM IN ORDER TO WIN A SB"? Correct on both counts. Thanks. SFIAH

05-04-2008, 02:21 PM	#3
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: payton wants shockey................... Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Correct on both counts. Thanks. SFIAH I bet Reggie Bush and Drew Brees want Shockey because he would instantly make them both better. Figure it out for yourselves cause I'm tired of typing. This only thing that is important is that Payton wants him. Now if we could get an all pro LB or DE for the same price that we may get an all pro offensive player, I think we would all go for it. Hey SFIAH, I have some beach front property in AZ I'll trade you for your beach front property in Kansas. Comes with a great desert view.

05-04-2008, 03:32 PM	#4
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,786	Re: payton wants shockey................... Originally Posted by foreverfan I bet Reggie Bush and Drew Brees want Shockey because he would instantly make them both better. Figure it out for yourselves cause I'm tired of typing. From a talent standpoint you may be right. But that's not what I'm arguing. Say we could get Antonio Gates. ProBowl Tight End. Worked with Brees. All around good guy. No problem. Truth is that if Shockey was the team player that everyone else on the Saints are, then the Giants wouldn't be shopping the guy. This only thing that is important is that Payton wants him. Now if we could get an all pro LB or DE for the same price that we may get an all pro offensive player, I think we would all go for it. It's important that the guy fits. The Giants price is too high. Shockey's attitude is too risky. So even though Payton may want him, he ain't coming here. Hey SFIAH, I have some beach front property in AZ I'll trade you for your beach front property in Kansas. Comes with a great desert view. Glad you finally caught up. SFIAH