hagan714

Pak the vilma deal works like this.
2008 we gave a 4th
2009 we give a 2nd or 3rd depending on playing time and contract signing.

2009A: Vilma is in pro bowl form and sign a long term deal. we are dancing the stands. 100+ tackle LB is in B&G again.
It is a 2nd we give and we get the NYJ's 4th rounder in return. Vilma costs a 2nd straight up.
OR
2009 B: We are still not sure if he can return to pro bowl form or he wants out of NO. We are still sitting and wondering what the heck happened and the beer tastes salty from our tears. Waite till next year.
It is a third we give and we get nothing. Vilma costs a 3rd and a 4th.

Now looking at that deal how in the world do you expect me to swallow this crap about the shockey deal? A 2nd straight up? Injury history alone and poor locker room presence? Come on.

Tell you what if it is a second I will have to leave my usual passive stance about players and really demand something from him. I will lead the lynch mob to airline hwy and start there. I will also put some crow in the freezer just incase.

"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

pakowitz

see i think ur wrong.. i think we gave up the 4th this year, and a 4th next year that could be up to a 2nd depending on PT an resigning.. if we have to give up the 2nd then we get their 4th in return..

ssmitty

10 reasons we need shockey..........

1) someone needs to get in brees face when he falls flat against better teams. it worked for manning...............
2)god knows, we need a blocker.............
3) payton needs his man crush satisfied........i compare this to, haslett-brooks.................but, in a positive way................
4) yes, someone will get hurt and someone needs to step up.........see reason # 1............
5) we need a few more guys with the, i want the ball attitude...........
you can never have enough of em.........
6) we actually do need a good t.e......................
7) i miss turley.........tell me you don't..................
8) it's getting harder to come up with answers, can't you tell?
9) i'm almost done.................
10) so we can lay this topic to rest and start a whole new shockey is a saint forum....................smitty