Saints tried to get Smoot in DT deal

saint5221 · 08-21-2003, 08:20 AM

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They must of heard you after all Rusta, to bad the Skins did'nt bite.

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Chase traded to Redskins

Saints deal away backup lineman for late draft pick

Thursday August 21, 2003

By Jeff Duncan
Staff writer

It didn't take a math expert to figure the Saints had one too many defensive tackles.

Four players had starting experience, and rookie Johnathan Sullivan was the team's first-round draft pick.

With the club expected to keep only four defensive tackles on the final 53-man roster, someone had to go.

Martin Chase discovered Wednesday afternoon that he was the odd man out. The Saints dealt the five-year veteran to Washington for a conditional seventh-round selection in the 2004 draft. The pick becomes a sixth-round selection if Chase is in 40 percent of the defensive plays this season.

"We have an abundance of defensive linemen," Saints coach Jim Haslett said. "Washington was courting a few linemen around the league. . . . We just felt it was a good opportunity for Martin to start, and it also alleviates a problem for us."

Chase is expected to contend for a starting spot in Washington. The Redskins were shopping for a defensive tackle after starter Brandon Noble suffered a season-ending knee injury this past weekend.

"It really hasn't sunk in yet," Chase said Wednesday afternoon after emptying his locker. "Being a part of this organization for the past three years has been great, and it's been a good opportunity for me. . . . I have an opportunity to start there. That's what you come into this league to do and make your dreams come true."

Chase played in 41 games and started four times during the past three seasons. In that time, he had 48 tackles and a sack, including a career-high 23 stops last season.

"Martin was a solid performer for us over the last three years, and this looks like a great opportunity for him," Saints general manager Mickey Loomis said in a statement. "We put a priority on building through the draft, and picking up an extra draft choice in this situation made sense. As an organization, we wish Martin the best in Washington."

The deal completed three weeks of negotiations between the clubs. The Redskins initially sought Grady Jackson or Kenny Smith in an exchange for one of two reserve running backs, Kenny Watson or Ladell Betts, according to sources familiar with the negotiations. The Saints told the Redskins that Jackson and Smith were off limits and countered by asking for cornerback Fred Smoot, the Redskins' 2001 second-round pick.

It was the Saints' seventh trade since March 13. They acquired Todd Bouman, Tebucky Jones and Derrick Rodgers in deals with Minnesota, New England and Miami, respectively. They dealt Kyle Turley and Norman Hand to St. Louis and Seattle, respectively, and made a draft-day swap of first-round picks with Arizona.

The deal gives the Saints nine draft picks next season. The club has the St. Louis Rams' second-round pick from the Turley deal.

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tweeky · 08-21-2003, 11:16 AM

It may not be over. If Bailey re-signs they can afford to deal Smoot.
I wonder what it would cost us though?
Ford, and one of our WR\'s or TE\'s?

lumm0x · 08-21-2003, 11:26 AM

We can\'t deal Ford now that we dealt Chase. I think that the Skins would be interested in a TE since we stole Rasby and all they really have is Flemister and a bunch of nobody\'s. I guy like Sloan or Williams may appeal to them, but I can\'t see either have market value enough to get Smoot. We\'d probably be able to steal Smoot but it may take Sloan and Pathon to get him. With the depth we have a both spots, as much as I like Pathon, I would do that deal. Washington has the cap room to absorb that move. I read on the Skins site that they are highly impressed with the performance of Sultan McCullogh at RB this preseason. This is all the more reason that they will be willing to drop Watson or Betts. Perhaps one of them can be included in a deal.

By the way, is it just me or does Spurrier and Snyder not give a sh!t about the draft? They seem inclined to only have to make one pick in April if possible. Draft picks are like gum wrappers to them.

saint5221 · 08-21-2003, 12:27 PM

I\'d love to see a deal happen for Smoot. Ambrose has\'nt looked too good yet,everybody seems to love Thomas but his hight does let bigger recivers catch the ball over him. Another corner sure could help and Smoot is a good young one. LummOx is right ,to bad Snyder does\'nt care much for picks we have a few of those. It would be great for the Saints if one of our TE and a pick instead of another player would get a deal done, with Hilton comming on, Rasby, Boo and Sloan fighting it out to start across from Conwell we are deep there. I would hate to see Paython go, he was a warrior over the middle last year , he is a tough fast reciver and with Stallworth always nursing his hamstring, a guy we will need.

TomGreen · 08-21-2003, 03:15 PM

When will we know if we can get Smoot?

nocloning · 08-21-2003, 04:31 PM

I think we know now, TomGreen. If we can\'t get a deal done with Chase there is no way any other deal will be good enough to get Smoot out of Washington unless the front office overpays like idiots that they are not. Pathon isn\'t going anywhere. Expect him to have a good season, by the way.

08-21-2003, 08:20 AM	#1
saint5221 500th Post Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 598	Saints tried to get Smoot in DT deal http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index...6102267070.xml They must of heard you after all Rusta, to bad the Skins did'nt bite. ÃƒÂ‚Ã‚Â» More From The Times-Picayune Saints News Chase traded to Redskins Saints deal away backup lineman for late draft pick Thursday August 21, 2003 By Jeff Duncan Staff writer It didn't take a math expert to figure the Saints had one too many defensive tackles. Four players had starting experience, and rookie Johnathan Sullivan was the team's first-round draft pick. With the club expected to keep only four defensive tackles on the final 53-man roster, someone had to go. Martin Chase discovered Wednesday afternoon that he was the odd man out. The Saints dealt the five-year veteran to Washington for a conditional seventh-round selection in the 2004 draft. The pick becomes a sixth-round selection if Chase is in 40 percent of the defensive plays this season. "We have an abundance of defensive linemen," Saints coach Jim Haslett said. "Washington was courting a few linemen around the league. . . . We just felt it was a good opportunity for Martin to start, and it also alleviates a problem for us." Chase is expected to contend for a starting spot in Washington. The Redskins were shopping for a defensive tackle after starter Brandon Noble suffered a season-ending knee injury this past weekend. "It really hasn't sunk in yet," Chase said Wednesday afternoon after emptying his locker. "Being a part of this organization for the past three years has been great, and it's been a good opportunity for me. . . . I have an opportunity to start there. That's what you come into this league to do and make your dreams come true." Chase played in 41 games and started four times during the past three seasons. In that time, he had 48 tackles and a sack, including a career-high 23 stops last season. "Martin was a solid performer for us over the last three years, and this looks like a great opportunity for him," Saints general manager Mickey Loomis said in a statement. "We put a priority on building through the draft, and picking up an extra draft choice in this situation made sense. As an organization, we wish Martin the best in Washington." The deal completed three weeks of negotiations between the clubs. The Redskins initially sought Grady Jackson or Kenny Smith in an exchange for one of two reserve running backs, Kenny Watson or Ladell Betts, according to sources familiar with the negotiations. The Saints told the Redskins that Jackson and Smith were off limits and countered by asking for cornerback Fred Smoot, the Redskins' 2001 second-round pick. It was the Saints' seventh trade since March 13. They acquired Todd Bouman, Tebucky Jones and Derrick Rodgers in deals with Minnesota, New England and Miami, respectively. They dealt Kyle Turley and Norman Hand to St. Louis and Seattle, respectively, and made a draft-day swap of first-round picks with Arizona. The deal gives the Saints nine draft picks next season. The club has the St. Louis Rams' second-round pick from the Turley deal.
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08-21-2003, 11:16 AM	#3
tweeky 500th Post Join Date: May 2003 Location: South Alabama Posts: 779	Saints tried to get Smoot in DT deal It may not be over. If Bailey re-signs they can afford to deal Smoot. I wonder what it would cost us though? Ford, and one of our WR\'s or TE\'s?

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lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Saints tried to get Smoot in DT deal We can\'t deal Ford now that we dealt Chase. I think that the Skins would be interested in a TE since we stole Rasby and all they really have is Flemister and a bunch of nobody\'s. I guy like Sloan or Williams may appeal to them, but I can\'t see either have market value enough to get Smoot. We\'d probably be able to steal Smoot but it may take Sloan and Pathon to get him. With the depth we have a both spots, as much as I like Pathon, I would do that deal. Washington has the cap room to absorb that move. I read on the Skins site that they are highly impressed with the performance of Sultan McCullogh at RB this preseason. This is all the more reason that they will be willing to drop Watson or Betts. Perhaps one of them can be included in a deal. By the way, is it just me or does Spurrier and Snyder not give a sh!t about the draft? They seem inclined to only have to make one pick in April if possible. Draft picks are like gum wrappers to them.

08-21-2003, 12:27 PM	#5
saint5221 500th Post Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 598	Saints tried to get Smoot in DT deal I\'d love to see a deal happen for Smoot. Ambrose has\'nt looked too good yet,everybody seems to love Thomas but his hight does let bigger recivers catch the ball over him. Another corner sure could help and Smoot is a good young one. LummOx is right ,to bad Snyder does\'nt care much for picks we have a few of those. It would be great for the Saints if one of our TE and a pick instead of another player would get a deal done, with Hilton comming on, Rasby, Boo and Sloan fighting it out to start across from Conwell we are deep there. I would hate to see Paython go, he was a warrior over the middle last year , he is a tough fast reciver and with Stallworth always nursing his hamstring, a guy we will need.
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nocloning 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 302	Saints tried to get Smoot in DT deal I think we know now, TomGreen. If we can\'t get a deal done with Chase there is no way any other deal will be good enough to get Smoot out of Washington unless the front office overpays like idiots that they are not. Pathon isn\'t going anywhere. Expect him to have a good season, by the way.
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