B_Dub_Saint

I just want a few opinions on what you all this about this guy. My first question is will he be the starter on the other side of Mike if Mike is ready to go by the regular season? Is he aggressive enough to play man-to-man coverage and actually make a big difference by disrupting the pass & making interceptions. We prob can all agree he is better than JD. I dont know much about the guy, but is he a big tackler? I love Porter and Usama and I know they will see a little playing time, but the point I am trying to get at is who is going to be the 2 starters. BTW off topic, I love this board and I truly respect each and everyone of your opinions. This is by far the best group of people that I have ever discussed Saints football with. This site kicks ass!!

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thesaintsfan

I totally agree with you B Dub, this site is great. Most of the people on here really know there their stuff. I come here for all of my Saints info and the info is almost always reliable. I've been involved in some epic show downs with some of the more seasoned vets on this board and although I didn't agree with what they were saying I still respected them for not backing down and sticking to their guns. Many will remember my classic "Saints Fans = Too Picky" post and how that discussion went down hill in a hurry. Looking back I'd have to say that you guys were right about Pac Man, we didn't need that scum. I say that now because alot more information has come out about his shady dealings. Having said that, I still want Shockey by God!

As far as Gay is concerned I'm kinda like you in that I'm not sure just how well he'll fit in our defense. Alot of people are concerned about him being a cover 2 guy that might not be a great fit in a man scheme. We have a right to be a little worried due to he whole Jason David debacle last year. The way I see it nothing but good things can come from picking him up. Like you said, one would think that at worst he'll still be better than David. So if he starts and he's even close to being an average NFL starter that would be a big upgrade over David. But here's what I've been wondering, let's say MM comes back and is still the solid player he has been for us. Let's say Gay ends up starting and is an above average starter. If we had two solid, reliable corners that could be counted on every week, would that be enough to put us over the top on D? I think that if we had two solid CBs to go along with our front seven we would have one helluva defense to go along with our great offense. Guys I think our front seven is gonna be scary, maybe one of the best in the NFL. So if we get just a little help from the back end we might have a championship defense on our hands.

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CantonLegend

im with u BDUB....even tho sometimes i get mad and throw stuff at paks avatar or even euphoria...i have to agree with u....these guys are great...ive gone from checking the saints home page first when i log on to checking the forums first...thats a huge step...but all it means is that the information is solid...reliable...and true....these guys are great at finding facts to base their arguments on...that is the basis of a great forum....even heated arguments always have facts...unless u say u hope the falcons beat us lol....dont do that


on the gay subject....i kinda like him.....he was a solid number one in NE til asante samuel...then he was a great number 2....whether he is better in tampa 2 or in man to man is really irrelevant because he is an NFL corner....he has decent speed....he reads the QB very well...he has a lot of experience playing for an elite defense in NE for the past several seasons...i dont like him as a number 1 guy on our team so if MM isnt ready to start we might be in trouble again.....but he could be a great 2 corner and i want to see how the rookie and usama young will play off of gays experience and leadership

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papz

I think David will come into camp as the starter. Gay is capable of starting but I think he's better suited as our full time nickel corner... inwhich he will excel there for us. I see a solid all around player with 3 or 4 picks. I believe David will surprise many this year... it'll be his job to lose. Barring injury, I don't expect much production from Young until next year and Porter's main contribution will be on special teams.

hagan714

We all love to discuss the saints, be right or wrong. I always come away with something to think about. Love it. nothing beats a good drunk agreement with out drinking. I agree to disagree. Nothing personal bonehead. Time to pour another one.

David will probably start the season on the island. We will need to have something happen in camp to change that.

Gay will be at the #2 till M&M is ready and I am thinking he will not be used until 2009 as the full time starter. Spot duty.

Young and Porter will battle it out for the nickel and the loser is the dime.

I am hoping by seasons end Porter or Young will be ready to take over on the island. Gay and M&M will be fighting for the #2. David will be holding on for dear life to be back in 2009.

I am looking forward to see what Gay can do on the field full time.

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Shockey can stay in NY and we should never let the falcons win. Yes saints fans are picky and we have the right to be.

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jewagr007

First off let me say that this site has the best group of guys that I have had the pleasure of not meeting .

Randall Gay....lets see...If you trace Gay back to his college days at LSU you will see a corner that excelled at M2M coverage. He played at LSU during the Saban (risisting urges to curse) days. Sabans defense thrived on LB blitzs and M2M coverage on the corners and it proved to be a top 5 defense. It is reason they played for the National Championship and it is the reason he was drafted as high as he was. NE refined his zone coverage skills but he is a true M2M corner. I believe that JD comes to camp as the #2 CB but is in real trouble. I believe Gay will be the #2 corner before preseason. If MM is not healthy by season start you may see JD and Young more often because we may be forced to play more zone coverage without MM to lock up with oppositions #1 reciever. Only time will tell but I promise you Gay will make a hard case for the #2 CB spot.

NolaBama

I think David will come out of camp as our CB2 and Gay will push him all year round with possibly some flip flopping on the depth chart throughout the year.

QBREES9

For some reason I think Gay will be are starter.

BigRon

Gay is a nickel corner and I hope that someone step up to win the starter position( U. Young or T. Porter) so that he can continue to play nickel which will be good for the team. I keep getting the feeling that our secondary will be greatly improved and one of the corners will be moved to safety ( J. David ).

pakowitz

Gay has lots of talent.. he was really highly rated coming out of H.S. but didnt really put it all together until his SR year at LSU when he had an awesome season playing in a pro style high blitz M2M Defense. just b/c N.E. plays mostly zone doesnt mean they only play zone.. they are a hybrid 3-4/4-3 defense.. they switch it up alot and their corners play alot of different packages..

R. Gays situation is totally different from J. Davids b/c the Colts played in a 3-4 about 98% of the time and david was strictly a zone corner and Gay isnt.. he has played alot of M2M D and his coverage skills are really underrated b/c of the system that the Pats run.. im going to guess that Gay will be the starter no matter if M.M. is back or not and David will be either the other starter or the nickel.. im hoping that U. Young can actually beat out David for the nickel spot and then T. Porter getting some playtime in mop-up duty and im pretty sure he will get some P.T. as the gunner on special teams

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