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I've been critical of the Shockey trade. I'm not ready to evaluate it for "value", but the guy is a great addition to the team. I was at least somewhat wrong about that.

I was VERY critical getting rid of Mike Karney in favor of Heath Evans. I was completely wrong about this as well. The guy comes to play and can do things I've always wanted to see out of our FB. GREAT addition!!

I was critical of the cutting of Kevin Houser in favor of our new long snapper. I was wrong. Kyle has some serious velocity and accuracy in his snaps. It's making a difference.

I was amazed and dismayed by the moves to acquire Moorestead. Man, I was wrong wrong wrong about that as well. The guy has completely changed the complexion of our ST play.

I predicted a 9-7 finish to this season. I THINK (and hope) that I am wrong!

As an aside, good thing I am not in charge of the front office for our Saints and I resolve to quit being snarky about Payton's play calling. The team is playing well in all phases and I look forward to our next big challenge.

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It's takes a big man to admit his mistakes.

Good Job, Frenzy

SFIAH

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Crow is best when slow cooked so it doesn't dry out as much.

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Kudos to you Frenzy.

Anyone else? Might as well get it all out in one thread. :cool:

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I'll have some crow, but just a wing for the amount of hate that I've piled on the Starcap twins. Still, one decent game in like 3 years doesn't exactly get them out of the dog house.

I'll take a drumbstick for panning the Morestead pick. He's been huge on KOs and Ps.

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I knew you were all wrong... Big dummy.... LOL
I was behind the coach and front office the whole way.
Go back and look at the record.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5EmVrdDe9G...ating+crow.jpg

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No you weren't so far.

Punting Average - 10th
Net Average - 16th
Inside 20 - 29th
Fair Catches - 25th
KO average - 16th

No way he's earned those 2 picks yet.

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Those 2 stats are a little misleading. Aside from the teams that play tonight, he's punted less than all but 3 teams.

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6 teams actually, and Net Average isn't skewed though, and its exactly mediocre, as are his KO's. Middle of the pack is 12 punts, he's punted 10 times.

You may wanna hold off on the annointing oil.

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He is 12th in net average. Only punted 10 times which equates to 20% of his punts land inside the 20 and only 7 of his 10 punts have been returned for 8.4 yard average. tied for 4th with touchbacks on kickoffs. His stock is rising.

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That surprises the heck out of me, and I find it hard to reconcile what I "see" on the field with what the stats seem to say. He sure looks great to me, but then that may be because I am used to REALLY awful play. On KOs alone, when Moorestead bangs it out of the endzone (as he's done several times) or hits it deep into the endzone, I want to cheer out loud. Last season, I never saw anything close to that. On his punts, they seem to hang forever and our coverage seems light years better than it has been - I attribute it to the punter and that hangtime but perhaps I shouldn't.

Further analysis is needed, but for the time being I'll trust my eyes and what I see and write off the stats as "misleading".

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Sorry for the second post, but this bears a side note. I told my wife about all the crazy cat pics that you post (and here's a perfect example, a cat with a crow feather - hilarious!) She wanted to see some and I did a search on your post history with her watching. Must have checked 25 posts and threads and couldn't find a SINGLE CAT PIC!! Figures, eh? I was embarrassed. Told her I must have been temporarily insane.

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SD, IND and NE have all punted 9 times, we've punted 10 times. Properly phrased, 3 teams have punted less than we have.

He's 11th in punt average, 12th net average and 12th in average return yards, and that includes the 43 yarder the team gave up against detroit. 16 PR yards since then. He's above average so far. He's not the second coming of Ray Guy, but he's getting it done.

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off Morstead, back on topic:

I'll own up to the absolute lack of love I have shown for Devery. He has been consistent, and sometimes even spectacular.

if I have to consume Crow, does anyone object if I choose this:

http://www.purelycanadian.com/Images/OldCrow.jpg

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Works for me, except you have to listen to this on repeat until you finish the bottle:

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Are you nuts? There're right there. LOL

http://www.commonsensejunction.com/x...t-squirrel.jpg

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Crow marinaded in creole sauce - might not be too bad LOL.

I agree most of the moves made by Payton and the staff have really worked out well. Exception might be the drafting of the Demon Deacon twins who both unluckily got hurt.

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I would like to say a big I WAS WRONG about two of our players...Jeremy Shockey. Thought he was a troublemaker and a huffy prima donna who threw his toys out of the pram when things didn't go his way. He has been solid and seems to have a better attitude. Even when he's on the sidelines he is encouraging and seems to be motivated. The next one, Scott Shanle. wasn't my most favourite Linebacker but he has come out this season and played well enough that if he carries on in the same vein will be a pro bowler. Some of you may laugh but I have noticed that he is around the ball much more than last year, seems to have a new lease of life. However I will stand by what I said; Shanle for the pro bowl if he carries on doing what he is doing. The true test though, is when the Saints are behind which they have not been this year. Buffalo was a stern test but do we have the character to bounce back when we're bloodied and on one knee? So far the morale says we have.

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Frenzy, I respect the heck out of you for that post. I know we've gone around on the Shockey topic and I'm just glad the guy is healthy and playing to his potential.

Sometimes it's feels good to be wrong.

Now, has anyone seen Boonedock Saint? LOL

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I think that you are just thrilled to see the Saints running game put away a team in the 4th quarter, which you have not seen since 2006, and that's got you exited about the team again.. And that is ok! Enjoy it!

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I am still wanting more from the pro bowler myself before I eat crow on that deal. Good addition yes. Worth the picks? hmmmm waiting and watching

Moorestead may have a few number skewed but he has improved with each game. Rookie jitters? maybe. I am cooking my crow right now. It is on slow cook but by game 8 it should be ready.

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The only player I have consistently bagged on is good ol' number 25. And so far, his "inconsistency" is the only consistent thing about him. I will gladly chow down on some crow, if he would get his head out of Ms. Kardashian's rear end, and have that breakout season, that everyone keeps saying he's going to have.

I liked the Shockey trade. He's a gamer.

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Yes...but we need for him to be a "seasoner".

I'm with Hagan...I need more time. Shockey needs to finish the season healthy with no distractions along the way. So far...so good.

I will give Payton his dues when/if he gets us to the SB, but I don't think I will ever like him. Fortunately, it doesn't matter how I feel about him.

I never had anything bad to say about Brees talent wise, but most know that I am not crazy about how much energy he burns trying to pump players up. It's just a personal taste thing for me. I don't think that will ever change, either.

I have said all along that I will gladly eat crow when the time is right, but, personally, I think a lot of people are jumping the gun with this, and I am a firm believer in karma, jinxes, etc. We've been 3-0 before...we've had meltdowns before, also. You would think that everybody would take what is happening right now with cautious optimism based on this franchises history, but far be it from me to try to crash the party. I will, however, wait and see how the rest of the season unfolds before I start celebrating.

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What's wrong with Reggie getting some a$$?? And his 'inconsistencies' existed long before she was in the picture.

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Wait too long LB, and there won't be any beer left at the party!! :p

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The "breakout" ain't going to happen. He does lead the team in yards from scrimmage, though.

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I was in agreement with all the moves but Moorestead. After checking out Evans I surely thought he could do more than Karney. Cannot picture Karney making the moves this guy has. Stats are deceiving sometimes but I think Moorestead will prove to be a good pick. I believe hang time and touch backs mean more.

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Isn't it amazing how winning hushes the whining! If we keep winning, no one has to have a break-out season- not Brees, Colston, Shanley, Shockey, or Ellis. Everything is acceptable when you are winning. I'll take my crow with rice, for daring Payton to show me that he WOULD commit to running the football, and so far, he has. If we keep rushing for over 100 per game, up my prediction to 12-4.

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We can put some Cajun Sunshine on that Crow, Frenzy. It was great in
the duck gumbo I had Sunday---woooo! yeah!!!

And I think Moorestead looks great.

As for my own personal criticisms, I'd like to see another good performance from our two "bookends" before I remove my comparison in their hustle to that of these guys: http://www.destination360.com/south-...ter-island.jpg

...that said, Grant & Smith are now beating these hardheaded fellows in the sack total by exactly one.